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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:36 PM
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Bird-dogging Hillary / The anti-war movement steps it up.
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 05:42 PM by shance
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"Last Monday night at a chic Manhattan fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, antiwar activists staked out the Senator and vowed to do so until she changes her position on the war.

(snip)

Last Friday Sen. Clinton spoke at an event in Kentucky where she reiterated her position stating, “The time has come for the administration to stop serving up platitudes and present a plan for finishing this war with success and honor,” she said. “I reject a rigid timetable that the terrorists can exploit, and I reject an open timetable that has no ending attached to it.”

Translation: Sen. Clinton is all for an extended American stay in Iraq. She “takes responsibility” for her vote on the war, but won’t admit that it was wrong. And of course, Clinton is still for “winning” this war. Whatever that means.

Antiwar activists across the country have not been overly pleased with Sen. Clinton’s continued warmongering these past few weeks. Medea Benjamin of Code Pink, who supported John Kerry’s pro-war campaign last year, has changed her tune on the Democrats and says she will be hot on Clinton’s trail across the country. “We're calling it Bird-Dog Hillary,” Benjamin raves.

It’s about time.

(snip)

Over on the other side of the country in San Francisco antiwar activists plan to hold a huge rally on December 20, where Clinton will be attending a bar association benefit with an interview session with Jane Pauley.

Focusing all of the antiwar movement’s energy on the Republicans is shortsighted, and perhaps worst of all, completely naive. The Democrats not only authorized this war, they still, by and large, defend the ongoing occupation.

Taking on the leaders of both parties is paramount if we are ever to end this bloody conflict.

(snip)

Lesser-evil politics often gets in the way of successful social movements; so let’s hope anti-warriors keep up their pressure on the Hillary Clinton. It can only lead to good things.


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whathappened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:42 PM
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1. where and the hell
is this thinking coming from from her lady clinton , what was she thinking at the time of her nod for the war and now the middle of the road thinking she is talking about , there is no winners in war and and nam should have spelled it out for all of them
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:45 PM
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2. What a good question. It baffles all of us who have supported her.
Perhaps it is what is most obvious but the most difficult to believe:

that she lacks enough true principle and concern for what is happening to Iraqis and the troops abroad, and in the end, cares more about her ascension to the White House.

I honestly fail to see another valid reason.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:48 PM
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3. I Totally agree with this!
and applaud Code Pink! I think I will send them a donation!

:)



http://www.codepink4peace.org/
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:51 PM
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4. Thanks LC*** Code Pink ROCKS.
Thanks for the link.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 05:56 PM
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5. my pleasure
Code Pink is one of the BEST Anti-War movements! They also had a very cool pink balloon peace sign in DC Sept. 24!

:hi:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 06:59 PM
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6. IMO, You are offering Hillary free PR to attract moderate voters.
She loves this. It makes her look tough and hawkish. The media reports it and Hillary comes out looking sensible and strong. As long as you are assisting her in this way she will not change her mind.
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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:14 PM
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7. The perverbial nail on the head. n/t
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:24 PM
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8. Hillary is an opportunist who is promoting the war machine.
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 07:36 PM by shance
This is what she has become. Hillary Clinton has very clearly shown us who she is and what she wants by her actions.

I think you're right. I dont believe she will be changing her mind. She has sold out and shes not looking back.

As a result, she has sold Americas young off for the oil boys and the defense contractors, so most of their futures and their dreams are now irrelevant and ruined.

Now it appears, her priorities are the criminalizing of burning red, white and blue fabric.

She and husband Bill both seem to suffer from Stockholm syndrome and seem to identify and bond better with those like George Bush Sr. who has been party of those who have abused, humiliated and assaulted her and her family for years, than with those who supported both her husband and her candidacy as Senator. .

One cannot help but conclude that her choices reveal moral bankruptcy or absence. She knows fully well the war was based on premeditated lies, actions and illegal forgeries and yet, she continues to support and promote those same policies.

Hillary is making herself irrelevant and invisible in the history books because of her cowardice, her now apparently blind ambition and desire for more power. She could have moved mountains. Instead, she is giving up on what is right.

I have no idea where she has gone and when she left, but she is no longer the Hillary so many of us believed in years ago.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 09:09 PM
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10. You Hit it Right on the Head
I cannot understand why the Clintons hang out with people like the Bushes when they represent the very people who tried to destroy them while Bill Clinton was
President. I wouldn't hang out with neocons--I would tell them to f-off.

Tammy
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 09:04 PM
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9. Sigh
In 08 there will be a Democrat President.
But the QUALITY the Quality
Can America do better than this
Sometime me think that the Ruling CLASS get everything lock down and perfected.
Almost immune to anything tat the masses want
Tone deaf to their needs and peace.

You dont need leaders to represent corporations thay already too powerful
You need leaders to represent you.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 01:50 PM
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11. Thanks OV. Eloquent words.
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 01:59 PM by shance
America absolutely can do much better than this.

However, when mediocrity and horrific leadership like that of the Bush Administration is rewarded and promoted then this is what becomes a bi-product of such Democratic neglect.

Luke warm, Pontius Pilate, overly cautious, leadership that has nothing to do with conviction, and everything to do with some sort of vendictive entitlement and obsession to "win" control of all decision making and power.

We do need leaders to represent us and more importantly we need to support, defend and protect those leaders that do represent us.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:41 AM
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12. A stupid game
grrrr even in my country
dont get a choice to decide who we want
they present us with their choice
oooh must have money or no chance
blah blah blah
end up get RUBBISH

DEMOCRACY grrrr need new formulate
This one bronken by money politic
Same world white
Always scream corruption
All big business fault
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