"Beware of 'Brokeback Mountain' says Former Homosexual and Wife" !!!

"I WAS gay" author Bennett

HUNTINGTON, Conn. Dec. 12 /Christian Wire Service/ -- "The Marlboro Man has succumbed to the homosexual agenda and John Wayne must be turning over in his grave," said Irene Bennett, co-host of Straight Talk Radio.

In response to the release of Brokeback Mountain, Stephen Bennett, host of Straight Talk Radio released the following statement:

"This movie sends a very dangerous message to America's youth - and especially married couples with a struggling spouse. I just spoke with a married man on the telephone who is contemplating leaving his wife and children. He's says he's gay - and Brokeback Mountain has influenced his decision. I spent a lot of time with this man telling him it's not what they're making it out to be. I know - I was there for 11 years.

“Believe me, we can sadly expect to see a lot more men like former Governor Jim McGreevy of New Jersey not only resigning from their jobs, but from their wives, children and families.

"First they got in the door with Will and Grace, then Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Now that people have been made 'comfortably numb,' they're pushing the limits with this one. They're talking about Oscar potential for this movie? I agree.

“First, I give it a 'thumbs down' for its message. Second, I give it an Oscar for the number one homosexual propaganda movie of the year.

"In the end, don't be fooled. This movie is not a 'love story' at all. Ask the real wives, children and families whose lives have been destroyed, as they have 'lived' Brokeback Mountain. Personally, I would have made the movie from the wives' and children's perspective and appropriately called it Heartbreak Hotel."

Straight Talk Radio is the very first daily national radio program strictly focusing on the issue of homosexuality and the homosexual agenda, featuring a former homosexual man and his wife as the hosts.

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Stephen is the Special Issues Editor on Homosexuality for The American Family Association and has written commentaries for WorldNetDaily.com.

Stephen Bennett is authoring his first book, "I WAS Gay" to be released in late 2006 by a national publisher. Irene has her first series of children's books being published dealing with "gender affirmation," the first children's series of its kind.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/sbm1212.htm

And the only reason he objects to this film is that it stirs the fires in his loins that he's trying so desperately to keep quenched.

It looks like a poignant, beautiful movie to me. I intend to see it and I seriously doubt it will make me leave my wife.

If these men are "struggling" against their homosexual urges to stay with their wives, is that really a good marriage? As a woman, do you want a man who has to "struggle" to be faithful, struggle to do it with you, struggle to keep from jumping on every hot guy that walks by?

What a sick sad man, that his mission in life is to make people live in a way completely contrary to their own natures.

Here's another one of these "ex-gay" preachers doing the same thing - Rev. Jim Venice.

http://www.pureheartministries.org/



The happiness! The happiness! I can hardly stand to look at it!

that's exactly what's going on.

Whoa. Way early in the morning to see their teeth! Resize man!

Those people look like they shoot lasers out of their eyes.

never thought i'd see it.

I feel very badly for these men. To deny who you are because you believe Christ or God will only love you if you love the Tammy Fays in your life.

what a horrible shade of fuschia

anyone else notice the big space where his big, gay mustache used to be?

anyway, nice of his mother to marry him.

I guess he must have over plucked them during his gay "phase" now he looks alien.

take the 1st picture as the man, then come back in drag and re-shoot - perfect couple

It's one thing if he had an experience or two as a young man. It's different if he was truly gay then claimed Jesus cured him.

Spooky lookin' people. Dead eyes. :yoiks:

ETA:

I mean, I'm so weak willed that seeing a couple of gay men in a movie will make me want to leave my wife of 4+ years and my daughter of 2 3/4 years.

:sarcasm:

:thumbsup:

not former gays.

How can you be 'formerly gay'?

And if you're a gay man with a wife and kids, you'd better be breaking the news to them ASAP, not living a life of quiet desperation.

OK, whatever dude.

Movies don't inspire people to become gay, unless you are already a raging closet case to begin with.

And a weirder, less self aware, more self-loathing group I have NEVER met.

Precisely: "WAS gay?"

I wonder what he would call those encounters in the bushes? Falling off the wagon and onto a hitch? :shrug:

this guy is, was, and always will be GAY no matter what drivel comes out of his mouth.

if homosexuals were not harassed, could potentially lose jobs, etc, and were able to come out to society, wouldn't there NOT be the problems of them struggling to be "normal" by marrying/dating/whatever with/as faux-heterosexuals?

So then there would be no tempation to go back to the homesexual lifestyle brought on by movies like, "Brokeback Mountain."

Or am I crazy?

:crazy:

There is just an illusion of freedom here. You are **free** to conform to the status quo or in this case, our strictly heterosexual society - do otherwise at your peril.

I wish I could ask people like this guy stuff like that.

radio station and ask him? :shrug:

Poor thing. what a nightmare he must be living. To be publically committed to 'the closet'... would (will?) be a very big deal when he runs screaming out of it again. I hope for him that he has the courage to do it eventually.


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"if you insist on being different from the people around you, you should expect to get teased"

NEVER ONCE, either of them, lifted a FINGER to save me from that. They thought I deserved it, and it was my fault!!

I am so sorry you had to go thru that! Bullies should never be allowed to have the upper hand.

:hug:

Can't see the difference between a man that leaves his family for another man or another women?

If people could grow up free to be who they are in their hearts and love who they love, then they wouldn't be in the situation of wanting to leave a wife/husband that they probably truely care about, but aren't really in love with.

Actually, the Marlboro Man succumbed to lung cancer at age 51. But thats another story.

"This movie sends a very dangerous message to America's youth - and especially married couples with a struggling spouse. I just spoke with a married man on the telephone who is contemplating leaving his wife and children. He's says he's gay - and Brokeback Mountain has influenced his decision. I spent a lot of time with this man telling him it's not what they're making it out to be. I know - I was there for 11 years."

I guess if this logic were true, if I was to see a "straight" film I would become a heterosexual. Or if after watching "Monster" I should have become a serial killer. These people are certifiable.

society. A great book or poem or play allows us to walk in another shoes, to experience through a 'willing suspension of disbelief' what it might feel like to be them, to see the world the way they see it.

Film art is very powerful and is one of the redeeming qualities of our current civilization, I think. These fools don't want people to sympathize, to understand, to wonder what is fair and not fair, to continue to welcome homosexuals into the mainstream media and our homes. That would mean that perhaps they were WRONG and wouldn't make as much MONEY peddling the crap they force down their followers throats.

How else are we to learn about other societies and cultures, whether we agree with them or not, if we are completely shut off from them.

on our own. I am looking forward to the movie making it to my corner of the world. What a kick if it gets nominated for an Oscar or two.

The Golden Globes will be announced tomorrow and I am sure the foreign press will love it as well. I would say the nominations would be Best Picture, Actor, Supporting Actor, Supporting Actress, and for certain Best Director and Writing nominations.

If this movie opens just ONE persons eyes as to what it means to be gay and have to hide those feelings for fear of being beaten to death in a small town, then it will have made a difference in this world.

I saw it Saturday and it's already changed the way I look at life and how fortunate I am to have been comfortable enough in my own skin to be who I am.

reasons GAY men TRY to hide their true sexuality by living a lie and pretending to be straight?

If you like it in there, be my guest - but the rest of us homo's are just tired of you folks trying to get us to enjoy the closet too. Been there, done that, didn't like it and won't be back. Thank you very much.

A closet is still a closet.

By the way. Cute avatar! Who is that? :hi:

That would be me.

:blush:

:blush:

I stand by my original comment. ;-)

(On the avatar)

You have good taste. :hi:

:yourock:

:hi:

:hi:

dark oppressive closets anyways? They need to upgrade the digs if they expect us to take that crappy bait.

First, I'm not gay
Second, I believe that most gays are probably born that way
But I do also believe that there are some people who have been sexually abused and become "gay" as a reaction formation to their abuse.

Now do I know this for sure? No. Do I think that the number of those who become gay from abuse is large? No I do not.

But on the other hand, how does anyone know what is in this man's heart? He may not have been biologically gay.

I do think that the notion that all gays can be "changed" or for that matter would even want to be if that is their biologically based sex preference, is wrong. For that issue, Mr. Bennett is wrong.

But as for himself? Or anyone else who says that they are "ex-gay", how do you know? Do you have any scientific proof? I don't have any either way.

'homosexual desire' which they argue is defeated through prayer. In the psychology world this is known as repression. As to people being abused and becoming gay...perhaps you mean pedophiles? Personally, I'd say that's a pretty different animal.

As for proof...I point only to the LONG list of ex-ex-gay folks that have eventually found peace with themselves and finally left their self-inflicted pain and suffering behind by coming out of the closet.

I'm always-gay myself, but I'm just curious. I just think it would be fun to promote ex-ex-gay sites as healthy opposition to the ex-gay ones.

I meant what I said, persons who were abused sexually as children by same sex persons who later felt they were "gay", but discovered that their sexuality had been shaped by their abuse, rather than by biology.

Yes this does exist.

In "Psychology World" this is more likely known as reaction formation, rather than repression.

Repression is an unconscious suppression of remembered material. Reaction formation is an attempt to join with that which threatens one in a way that the person feels they are vindicated.



So much for amateur psychology.

As a mental health professional, I have grave doubts about people changing their sexuality anymore than someone their gender through prayer, or group therapy.

Most people who are disturbed about being gay, are disturbed because they are tortured by a society that doesn't accept gays.

I asked in the original question though, was how did the person "know" that one couldn' ever change?

And to what benefit is it to attack someone who believes they might be able to?

JMHO

I do know several that formed intimate relationships with women after leaving abusive men and eventually went back to males.

I haven't heard that with men though I do think there are "temporary gays" in the prison population.

Whoever is rubbing your genitals, it feels good. And men stuck with men for long periods still like their genitals rubbed.

The author has a point though, these are good looking men in the movie and now I am strangely drawn to men.

I am a woman so I guess that's OK?

I don't know for sure, but certainly the cases I've heard of are women who were abused, had a time in the "Lesbian" world, and decided that they were in fact straight.

Prison homosexual experiences are not considered experiences that make someone gay.

Homosexual experiences are not what defines a homosexual person.

Actually we are all just people who have experiences, and it really shouldn't matter a whole hell of a lot who we have sex with as long as it isn't adults having sex with children! (or defenseless animals)

Sexual orientation is not a choice. Does this guy have no clue about the eunuchs who are mentioned in the bible?

depect straight couple because they will suddenly become straight.

It's RELEVANT to all our lives. If there's someone persecuting me for who I am, it will affect us all in the long run. Civil rights is a GD topic, IMHO! :shrug:

Why should anything regarding homosexuality only be in one forum?

:hi:

Not being snarky, I really want to know. Geez... thanks for marginalizing me AGAIN. It always warms me, seeing DU so open armed toward its gay brothers and sisters...

But gay issues have to stick to their own forum! :sarcasm:

:shrug:

:sarcasm: :eyes:

The way I see it, you are either attracted to the same sex or you aren't. No movie is going to change that. These people are out of their minds.

past his prejudices, and probably doesn't even see them for what they are.

would blame a movie.

pathetic

decisions out of the blue. Right. :sarcasm:

The likelihood is the "married man who is ont the telephone contemplating leaving his wife and children" (assuming he exists at all) was already agonizing for months or years over the decision, and the movie was a catalyst for his ultimate decision, not the cause of it. He'd have made the decision later on without the movie, for sure. I'd bet good money on it.

and once any man tries it, he's HOOKED FOR LIFE :sarcasm:

Honestly, I've always thought that viewpoint summed up the right fringe, and that many of them really do struggle to stay in straight relationships.

It doesn't help that their screwball preachers are thundering "SIN!" from the pulpit every Sunday.

Half of them are saying that "normal" men are repelled by gay sex, and the other half are saying that homosexuality is a sinful constant temptation.

:wtf:

IMHO, they're both totally repressed.

they are having some kind of sordid affair with the church secretary (or two) that will be revealed by a disgruntled parishioner down the line.

Hypocrites.

I wonder when he is finally going to come out of the closet. He knows he is gay and I bet his wife knows also. She is probably constantly living in fear that he will leave her for a man. :eyes:

Ann Coulter is an upcoming guest, and they've been the guests of the "Left Behind" nutcase Tim LaHaye.

This says a whole lot.

I understand it can be contagious. :-)

The question is: What'll I catch? Or don't I want to know?

Will I become christian, or gay? or both? Will I need a closet? Or power tools? a Toaster? What?

:rofl:

Not gay or Christian. Although there's nothing wrong with either. I understand their ignorance is contagious. But I think you have to be around them for a bit longer to be exposed. :rofl:

You'll be fine!

Seeing a love story between two cowboys doesn't appeal but come on, this movie isn't going to convert straight men to gays, that's ridiculous.

I'm open to seeing a love story between two str8 people and seeing it as just that. A love story. Even though hetero sex isn't "appealing" to me.

:eyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051212/ap_en_mo/film_critics_awards_13

....NEW YORK - The New York Film Critics Circle became the latest group to name the cowboy romance "Brokeback Mountain" as the year's top film.....:}

I started a thread the other day because I was tired of it being simply the "gay cowboy" movie.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5550301

I saw it Saturday and it's one of the most beautiful films I've seen regarding true love and the force it has upon us.

???

Perhaps they are just posting in general so that people can see the press attention. Just my guess. :-)

I know sometimes people skim a few words or catchphrases and shoot the messenger, not realizing the article is just being presented for discussion :)

It's all good discussion. :-)

That shit looks like the "before" picture in an ad for Prozac.

Anyone who is truly gay can't get excited about the opposite sex. I wish these people would crack open a damn dictionary and quit lying to the masses of idiots who listen to them. First things first, pedophilia is not homosexuality. I wish they would at least get that much straight in their tiny little closed minds. Next, by definition someone who is able to have sex with the opposite sex is not gay and never was gay. Bisexual perhaps, but not gay. A simple flipping open of the dictionary would clarify that for them. Next, they should go take a long look in the mirror. Something is wrong with someone who says they "used to be" gay but now are not. Period. You don't flip it on and off like a damn light switch. It doesn't work that way. Those people infuriate me. I wish I could find a good lawyer and sue them for causing my blood pressure to skyrocket and endangering my health. Fucking bastards. <end of rant>

:thumbsup: It's ridiculous, but there's apparently an audience for this tripe.

ago.... the joke was that almost everyone was at the "Ex Gay" meeting just to pick up people....

"Well, ok. As long as it's a heterosexual shower rub down."

this Bennet guy is. So he is now no longer gay, yet he has devoted his career to hosting a radio show devoted exclusively to homosexuality and the "homosexual agenda?" It's like he must remind himself over and over every day that he's "not gay" in the hopes that he might be able to convince himself. He has got to be just full up to his eyeballs with fear and self-hatred and paranoia - over what? OOOOO, he might be gay, and if that happened, we all know the earth would positively stop its rotation (sarcasm).

It's so strange since the only people that make things like homosexuality a public issue AT ALL are those that work so hard to convince us all that it's bad or wrong. If he and the rest of the religious right would just CALM DOWN, we wouldn't even be discussing this. He's so paranoid about being gay - because he thinks it's a bad thing - because RWers have worked so hard to convince us it is. One great big happy tautology!

There's a big, blatant plea for CASH in specific amounts on the left side of the Straight Talk Radio website, and I'm betting lots of folks are anteing up big time for Christian Straight Talk Radio. Plus, he's a Christian musician, so he's got that income going on. UGH.

Who died and made them God? They need to leave people alone!

:puke:

Back in my fundie days, I belonged to one of those groups that claimed to be able to "change" gays to straights. There are so many code words in that stupid press release, it brought back all those BAAAAAD memories.

First of all, I was part of the group for 6 years and NEVER saw anyone change from gay to straight. We had two guys get married - one even had kids - but both confided to me that they felt guilty because they couldn't really be passionate with their wives. Oh, they could perform and even put on a good show, but the one guy said, "I can count on one hand the number of times I've been able to do it with her without thinking about someone else."

Second, the group was rife with guys sleeping with each other! Even I did that - felt horribly guilty about it later. It ruined a friendship and a potential good relationship because we both couldn't deal with the guilt. Just sad.

Finally, I don't think breaking up one phony relationship for another true one necessarily results in "destroyed lives." It can . . . particularly when one partner has been led to believe one thing and finds out it's all a lie. THAT'S the real crime here - leading guys to believe just ANYONE can stop being gay once you "accept Christ" and then making it some sort of standard of performance that you get married and drag someone else into the picture! It's disgusting.

It's not attractive at all and it's also a bunch of ...bullshit.

Thanks for the view from someone who has been there. Seems it's all about denying reality, eh?

"John Waye turning in his grave?" Didn't I see a thread on DU a few weeks about about the Duke being a cross-dresser?

It is so sad that people feel they have to deny themselves to be good enough for god, but that is the message of many preachers.

I know it is often with good intent that people try to change, the shame is on the society that makes them feel they must.

Must be hell on teens discovering their "abnormal" inclination.

How did you get out of that group? Even more how did you come to realize it was OK not to change?

I'm a Christian and I don't care if someone is gay, straight etc. Your personal life is your personal life like mine. But I don't like phonies and this guy screams phoney. I wish more people like you would speak out about how these places are fake. I remember on CNN they were talking about the place in Memphis and they didn't have any psychology credentials etc!! So how are they able to do this? Isn't it like emotional abuse? Why can't they just let people be? God obviously does.

But I can't see why this guy would be worried about straight guys going to see this and suddenly becoming gay. I have allot of straight male friends and I would have to drag them kicking and screaming to go see a movie about gay cowboys. :)

Wasn't there a thread about a few months back on this ersatz straightster? It's SUCH bullshite. This guy should watch But I'm a Cheerleader sometime and wake the hell up. I showed the lesbians-in-law his website and they about shit themselves laughing.

BTW, his . . . er . . . "wife" looks very drag-queeny.

I knew a guy like this. All his porn had picures of guys in it. All of it. It was freaky. But I think the mindset is so long as there's a woman in the picture, even if you can't see very much of her, it's not gay.

:scared:

This movie has got to be a nightmare for anyone who lives that far back in the closet.

watch it.

When I first heard about this I wasn't interested in this movie, but since right-wingers are making such a fuss it has me interested.

Flimmakers are trying to spread this nonsince propoganda, and their getting away with it. They won't be happy until everyone has caught the gayness.

he still has a serious case of gayface!

"Former homosexual" - thanks for the laugh!

I'm still "practicing" - haven't perfected it yet.

If young people see THE GODFATHER do they become mafia members? And is the conversion instantaneous or does it occur gradually?

Mr. Bennett is obviously an idiot. I would pay very good money to hear Mr. Bennett debate Gore Vidal on this subject.

wives and children in the first place? Stephen Bennett is spitting into the wind.

Suppressing part of yourself isn't as difficult as suppressing your whole being.

I always wonder if they were gay in the first place. How do you know you weren't just curious or bi-sexual? It is possible to be curious but still have straight feelings I'm sure. People are so quick to judge themselves as this way or that way. Labels just make things worse for people.

I experimented with both genders in my teens and early 20's. It was mostly a very positive experience, I'm neither ashamed or sorry for. I eventually settled down with one woman because it was the best for ME. I'm not curious about what I'm missing, because I've been there, and if I had a "gay" fantasy I wouldn't hesitate to enjoy it. I don't believe in suppressing feelings, but monogamy does require that at least some urges be suppressed, and I personally am a one-woman kind of guy. Then again monogamy isn't for everybody and that's cool, too.

The difference with these "ex-gays" who have decided to be hetero just to please some angry deity, is that they have this whole side of them that they are ashamed of and try desperately to suppress, and we all know that suppressing our feelings can lead to obsession, anger, frustration, all kinds of very negative feelings. It's only a matter of time before it becomes too much and they "slip" either into anonymous brief sex acts, or into an actual affair with someone. Either way, the wife and kids suffer.

I would never have gone into a hetero marriage if I had felt I was going to feel deprived, and I wouldn't have lied to my wife about who I am. I'm perfectly comfortable with being a bisexual man in a committed relationship.

We live in San Francisco, and when I see two men holding hands on the street, I think it's nice, and it makes me happy to see other people who are happy.

I wonder how these self-hating "ex-gays" feel? Angry? Envious? Ashamed? So sad what destruction religious fanaticism can do to the human soul - when it's supposed to be all about uplifting people.

I think this guy makes an interesting argument. I can't post anymore because I gotta go watch Harry Potter a few more times in the hopes that THAT movie will rub off on me and I can finally have the magical powers I have always desired!!! :sarcasm:

okay, so I only saw the preview but I'm already feeling "the change" and I'm SCARED! I'm just a simple heterosexaul married woman but I can't help thinking about becoming a gay cowboy. Damn those homosexuals with their evil homosexual agenda! :eyes:

On a more serious note...if Brokeback Mountain can influence men to fall in love with other men, the why in the hell can't the fucking Dawn commericial convince MY husband to wash the fucking dishes every now and then? What the hell!?!!??! Is it the chaps? The cowboy hat? What influences you men to do things you never thought you would do before? Speak up because I'm taking notes over here.



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Good. I'll have to remember that one when someone mentions that.

What truly thinking straight woman/man chooses to spend half of their life or more with someone who cannot give all of themselves to them. What a nightmarish disaster our society foists on these people.

Brokeback Mountain (which I've seen) isn't a love story. It's a tortured love story. It shows the pain, anguish and tragedy that these secrets and false marriages often create. What is the answer that these idiots come up with? DENIAL?

Stop pressuring people to change from gay to straight and then you will end the pain and tragedy created by these marriages based on lies.

that involves an unsuspecting straight person.

gay person and an unsuspecting straight person? When I got married, you still had to ask the pharmacist for condoms, so you can imagine some of the changes I've seen. I have no doubt whatsoever that a lot of people drifted into marriage with no real sense of their sexuality. This may be the source of the panic over the "gay agenda". How many people over the years caught a glimpse of gay (or lesbian) culture and suddenly understood themselves for the first time in their lives. Parents saw gays "recruiting" youngsters when gays were only saying yes, this is a perfectly normal alternate way to be. Very soon we'll be looking back and wondering what all the fuss was about, but not soon enough.

more "close calls"--got engaged as a last ditch attempt to be straight, then woke up and called it off (what can I say? If one is active in theatre from high school on--one gets to know LOTS of people at the ages they're "coming out"--) and in every case the gay person was aware of their preference. Your scenario-- some unsuspecting gay person got married -- never crossed my mind!

Creepy that our society makes it all so difficult. Heartbreaking, really.

He's just a gay (or bi) hiding his true nature because of religious repression.

This is someone afraid of who they are and that should be a source of pity. No movie made him gay. So why should this one make other boys gay? He can hide behind his radio station, but soon or later the "bushes" he hides behind will reveal him...like the did the other "ex-gay."

Ex-gay? Is that like being like ex-Black? Ex-woman? Ex-whatever?

he's really straight.. you see, he couldn't get any women to date his stupid azz so he started trolling giving BJ's to congressman, priests, and cops in the area! ONLY when a women was desperate enough to take him did he claim, 'well gosh, I'm not gay after all!'


seriously, he's either gay-closeted from religious intolerance or he's bi as someone else said.


God bless us, everyone. WHOSOEVER - John 3:16

see it because my heart is still capable of recognizing love when I see it.

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I recognize the right of these folks to speak their truth, I just mourn for the people who will listen to them and feel trapped and alone.

"...Ann Coulter!"

Awesome. The ex-gay meets the ex-whatever-the-hell-Ann-used-to-be-before-they-turned-her-into-an-anorexic-zombie-fascist-android. I am so there!!!

A daily radio show dedicated entirely to homophobia. It really must be a very strange time to be living in the US.

http://www.straighttalkradio.org/

...who both live and carouse in very gay SOUTH BEACH.


WTF-ever...

http://www.sbministries.org/

Stephen Bennett is a Christian song writer and recording artist whose music can be heard nationally on Christian radio. As evangelists and missionaries, Stephen, his wife Irene, his family and Ministry Team travel across the country sharing his music, message and Christ-centered, life changing story of complete freedom from homosexuality.

In other words, he figured out a way to turn his shame about his past into a meal ticket.




Stephen’s story and music have touched the hearts of millions worldwide - offering a real message of hope and love to those struggling with same-sex attraction, as well as family and friends of those who are involved in or struggling with homosexuality.

Why struggle?





If you are not familiar with Stephen Bennett's story, we ask that you first read it by clicking here.

Stephen Bennett struggled with homosexuality until he was 28 years old. Alcoholic, bulimic and a drug addict, his destructive life style nearly killed him.


Wow - he had some problems. Is he trying to blame that on his homosexuality? Who wants to bet it was more likely due to a highly repressive upbringing by insane fundies? I got $50 riding on this one.




Over 11 years actively as a promiscuous homosexual man with countless male partners,

Maybe you wouldn't have felt so ashamed of your homosexuality if you'd been less of a whore?



many of Stephen's homosexual partners and friends are tragically dead from AIDS.

That is really sad. They have this thing now called "safer sex..."




Finally, one day while happily involved in a long term, committed relationship with a man he was in love with, Stephen was confronted by a Christian woman knocking at his door with a Bible in her hand. He would never be the same again.

How happy and committed could he have been if he up and left just because some shrew with a bible showed up at the door? Would he have been receptive to to such a nosy bitch if he hadn't been raised in a fundie home full of self-hate?




That was over 15 years ago. Today at 42 years old, Stephen is happily married over 12 years to his beautiful wife Irene - a Christian woman - who knew Stephen when he was actively living as a homosexual man and never stopped praying for him. Stephen and Irene are the parents of two beautiful little children, a boy and a girl. Their passion and commitment as a couple and as a family is to make a difference in the lives of millions worldwide with the truth.

Unlike most "ex-gays" this guy has turned it into a money-maker, so he is unlikely to "relapse" at least not publicly. But for most people who try his way, the eventual end will unfailingly be a broken family and hurt feelings all around. What an asshole to try to make a buck by creating so much eventual misery.

:mad:

has to make a difficult choice, and in the end follows their heart (but ends up hurting their family in the process)?

Isn't that what makes a compelling story?

Don't these pro-marriage types celebrate love stories like this?

I just spoke with a married man on the telephone who is contemplating leaving his wife and children. He's says he's gay - and Brokeback Mountain has influenced his decision.

Does this even pass the smell test? Don't like the movie, don't go!

Would you have someone continue to deny his true self? I used to be be very critical of gays who suddenly "found" themselves and left wives and children, but now I'm more sympathetic. Anyone growing up before the 80's and 90's (or even today in some places) would be under so much pressure to be straight or would be in such ignorance of his/her sexuality that it's almost inevitable that he/she would end up married. That's what makes some sort of support for gay/lesbian students in high schools so important. It's not to recruit kids. It's to allow kids to learn about themselves.

And of course it didn't last. It hurt him terribly, but I had sympathy for both of them. The pressure on her was tremendous -- and we grew up in the 60s and 70s.

I think you misunderstood me. The author is saying that the movie made the caller want to leave his wife and kids and I think that that is a manufactured quote. I find it hard to believe that this movie influenced someone like that and that this is simply an attack on the movie.

No, I don't think someone should deny their true self but I can understand it, especially with the wingnuts so bent out of shape over gay marriage.

...that he has maintained any past gay relationships, or has engaged in any gay relationships over the past 11 years.

If guys like this end up being so fucked up in the head not only will they lead a miserable life, but so will the poor woman who ends up married to him.


It hurts many many people to be living a lie!