Question for those of you wanting Williams to die

I'm against the death penalty because there are too many innocent people who get killed because of lack of evidence etc. and it's also an easy way out. For those of you saying Williams should die because he murdered someone else what about the soliders in Iraq? Yes, they are doing their job but they still signed up for it as others point out and still doing the deed. So should soliders in Iraq get the death penalty for killing innocent Iraqi's? Isn't it the same thing? And if it isn't the same thing why? Murder is murder. Please note that this isn't saying that the soliders should have that happen to them. It's just an honest question I'm curious about what other people say.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin.

So'll just leave that amazing paragraph to stand on its own.

;)

I'm making use of it right now.

What about the Iraqi's killing our soliders? Should they be put on the death penalty for protecting their country?

Civilian murderers make the CHOICE to murder.

OUr soldiers have been sent to Iraq by Bush, who so inflamed the Iraqis with his cowboy rhetoric, that he CREATED insurgents who have no other goal but to kill US soldiers. (I understand that there are rogue soldiers. Hell, there are rogue candy stripers.)

But our soldiers did not make the CHOICE to go to war. And many of them didn't make the CHOICE to join the military--poverty and aspirations are incongruent, and many had to do service just to reap the benefits of the GI bill so that they could go to college and have an above-min-wage future.


I honestly hope that your thread is locked.

Too ridiculous to consider.

You say Tookie chose it and so did the soliders to join. I could never join the military because I know that I would have the chance of going to battle and I couldn't do it. So why do soliders, whether our country or another country, get medals and parades for their murders? From women and men to children. What about the soliders with the Nazi's? They were just doing their job but they killed thousands of Jews.

Read my post. I explained it quite nicely.

What a fucking idiotic thread.

Who can't bring themselves even to kill under the President's orders?

Remember that guy? I can't recall his name now but he refused to go to Iraq and he was thrown in jail. Why?

And I don't think this is a 'fucking idiotic thread'. You only asked for opinion and discussion.

I've never got the death penalty. Call me weird but I've just never got why someone else wants someone else murdered. Why can't good soliders refuse to go to Iraq but get thrown in jail if they don't follow orders? Why do other soliders whether here or in other countries get medals and parades when they aren't protecting us such as with Vietnam and Iraq (and maybe Afghainstan)?

the poverty of inner-city Chicago can even dream to go to college without joining the military and taking advantage of the GI bill?

If he has mediocre grades and is not an athlete, then the military is one way that he can get a college education and also have something on his resume' (service) that many employers consider an asset.

I have many friends who joined the military (and who served in the Nat. Guard) BEFORE declaration of war in Iraq who had no choice but to go when the prez told them to. Thank god all of them returned and are now in college. They would have had NO chance of obtaining a college education, because they were born in poverty. Now they do, and they have changed the projectory of their lives, and even their future children's lives. To serve in the military for four years, and to change the rest of your life and those of your progeny--well, that's a risk that many people are willing to take for a better life.

So why should they be given medals and parades for killing innocent people from babies to grandfathers? What about the Nazi soliders and Hitler Youth?

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they may or may not WANT to, but orders are orders. Williams killed in cold blood. How DARE you equate the two:mad:

What about them? Is that better for you?

You have said Nazi "soldiers." In a regular battle, then it is war. If they are killing on the side (civilians not engaged in resistance), then there is a problem. If someone broke into your home and threatened to kill your family, would you let them proceed or actually murder them?

and a little less threatening.

What about the "contractors" who shoot Iraqis for fun (we have video) and can't be charged under Iraqi law and won't be charged under American law?

Better now?

Flamebait, and anti-troops flamebait, at that.