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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:37 AM
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Justice Has Been Served
The system works.

CNN says that "tookie" has been pronounced dead, and his victims can now rest in peace, and the families of those victims can live on with a sense of justice and closure.

The victims of this killer are in my prayers.

Albert Owens

Yen-I Yang

Tsai-Shai Yang

Yee-Chen Lin
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:38 AM
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1. Nonsense.
There is no closure for a murdered person's family.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:38 AM
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2. Lynching murder more like it!
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:39 AM
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3. No
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 03:40 AM by rawtribe
Tookie is dead...

That's all!

Unless you have reports that his victims have risen from the dead?
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:40 AM
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4. will they? will they?
"...his victims can now rest in peace, and the families of those victims can live on with a sense of justice and closure...."

they're better off now than they were an hour ago?


and what about the damage to this nation's soul?


Capital punishment is evil and barbaric.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:40 AM
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5. Yeah, whatever
Tookie killed four, Bush/Cheney have killed 30,000+
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Stephist Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:41 AM
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6. And they are all alive again because we killed this man
correct? Oh they're not? Now there is 5 dead people instead of 4? God bless Justice:cry:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:41 AM
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9. Pure murder!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:42 AM
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12. A murderer deserves no less. nt
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:44 AM
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17. Really? All of them?
There are many more people convicted of murder in the US than sentenced to death. Are you suggesting that the death penalty is not applied enough in this country?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:44 AM
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18. And you helped killed him by supporting it!
You have blood on your hands! No better than the freepers who support the Iraq slaughtering!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:41 AM
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7. What about the family members that didn't want him killed?
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 03:43 AM by Quixote1818
It's a fact that some of the several victims family members were against him being put to death.

How on earth can you claim to speak for them? It's really not your place under any circomstances unless it was your family.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:42 AM
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10. Victim's Family: Let 'Tookie' Die
http://www.sacunion.com/pages/california/articles/6911/
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:51 AM
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24. Rebecca Owens is only one family member
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 03:52 AM by Quixote1818
you failed to mention the wishes of the family members of the others three who were killed.

See the post below: "Rhandi reported yesterday that one of the victims wives forgave him. The death penalty needs to be banned from this country forever!"
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:42 AM
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11. Exactly
Rhandi reported yesterday that one of the victims wives forgave him. The death penalty needs to be banned from this country forever!
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:41 AM
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8. With all due respect, your prayers are worthless. n/t
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:43 AM
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13. Don't bother him...
Let him waste his time talking to the imaginary faeries.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:59 AM
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29. Yep, it's always the imaginary faeries that are all for killing people
along with those who start Religions. I'm glad I don't pray or perhaps I would start wishing death on people too.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:43 AM
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14. In your prayers?
That's pretty presumptuous, don't ya think? Most of Owens' family didn't support the execution at all and will find no sense of justice or closure in it, only more death and grief and suffering to some other family. I haven't heard anything from the Yang family, they apparently have managed to find some closure without this. These people have exhibited the real meaning of spirituality, they don't need your prayers. And they sure didn't ask you for them.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:43 AM
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15. have funeral-burial arrangements been announced?
I assume there will be a big funeral,

will any 'big names' be in attendance?
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:44 AM
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16. Justice for whom?
Killing a fifth person does absolutely nothing towards bringing back the four already dead.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:45 AM
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20. It only causes more pain and anger
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:45 AM
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19. STOP praying! Quick! The media press conference is on!
You can hear Rita Cosby huskily describe the death in grim detail and your can revel in it.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:49 AM
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21. They are in my prayers as well.
As well as the family and friends of Tookie.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:50 AM
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22. good on ya.
Someone loved the schmuck.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:51 AM
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25. I feel no ill will towards his family or friends, BB.
I just don't want the victims and their families to be forgotten either.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:51 AM
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23. I thought you were an atheist.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:52 AM
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26. YOU!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=263x13778
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:59 AM
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30. Awwww.
Now I feel even worse for staying away.

I can't believe y'all missed me.

I missed you too.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:57 AM
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27. I am...
It doesn't mean that I can't have thoughts, meditations, and yes, prayers for people that I feel deep sorrow or care for. You know that I am not the most strident Atheist when it comes to terminology. We met over that fight that Atheists can or can't proselytize.

How come our paths haven't crossed lately?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:02 AM
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32. I've not been here.
Life's tough enough and I come back tonight to see people gleefully celebrating a man's death.

I thought I was transported to the OTHER site by accident.

When I see an atheist praying, I know something is wrong.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:58 AM
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28. No, his sentence has been served.
I do not believe the DP is justice. It is vengeance plain and simple.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:00 AM
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31. Thats for sure. nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:03 AM
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33. Oh has it really
Glad to know that was your call to make.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:03 AM
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34. Locking
Again, with all due respect, emotions are running very high tonight and this post (along with numerous others) is just fanning the flames
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