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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:02 PM
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Someone REALLY wants Troops injected with Anthrax Vaccine
A Brief Timeline of the Anthrax Vaccine

1998-2003: Military Enforces Mandatory Anthrax vaccinations

Dec 23, 2003: Judge Halts Mandatory Vaccinations- Troops shouldn’t be “Guinea Pigs” with an experimental (not approved by the FDA) vaccine

Dec 26, 2003: Defense Department Seeks Court Approval To Continue Illegal Vaccination Program

Dec 30, 2003: FDA Approves Anthrax Vaccine



Jan 8, 2004: Pentagon Can Resume Mandatory Anthrax Shots

Oct 27, 2004: Judge says FDA approved vaccine illegally - stops mandatory vaccinations again

Dec 10 2004: Wolfowitz writes to HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson “seeking emergency authority to resume administering the anthrax vaccine”


Dec 23, 2004: Despite judge’s ruling, Pentagon seeks to restart controversial program

The Department of Defense is discussing with other agencies how it might reopen and again make mandatory a controversial anthrax vaccination program despite a second federal court order enjoining DOD from forcing troops to take the shots…

The DOD and vaccine manufacturer Bioport, of Lansing, Mich., assert the vaccine is safe. They point to 18 studies, including one.. saying the vaccine is no more dangerous than any other vaccine.



May 25, 2005: DoD appeals judge’s ban on mandatory anthrax shots

Dec 02, 2005: Still Trying- US asks court to reinstate mandatory vaccinations

Dec 04, 2005: REVEALED- 20,000 Troops Hospitalized after receiving Anthrax Vaccine

It is clear that some very powerful people, including Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, (both PNACers) really want troops to get this potentially lethal vaccination. And why are they so damned pushy about it?

links work here
http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/12/11/anthrax_timeline/#comments



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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:04 PM
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1. Follow the money
Which administration official has tons of stock in the company that will produce and/or administer these shots?

I know that Rummy owned tons of stock in that company that is to administer the bird flu vaccine - and lo and behold - the media screams, "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!" about bird flu for weeks. :eyes:
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:13 PM
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3. Carlyle Group invests in BioPort
Making a Killing: the Dark and Ongoing Story of BioPort and the Anthrax Vaccine
12-Aug-02
Carlyle Group
Since the first anthrax attack, one story has been notably absent from the mainstream press — a story that should be pushed front and center onto the public stage along with Enron, WorldCom and the rest of the "glowing examples" of corporate greed and extortion. It is the story of BioPort, a modest-sized maker of vaccines in Lansing, Michigan that is owned in large part by the Carlyle Group.
http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Carlyle%20Group

See wikipedia for members of this investment group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group

This is the kind of thing that makes me feel impotent.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:27 PM
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5. And, there you go.
I knew it was about money.

With the neo-cons, it's all about power, money and greed.

Compassionate conservatives, my ass.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:29 PM
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6. Predictable as ever. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:08 PM
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2. i have a military family, the oldest son had anthrax and then
got wife preg too soon after shot. they later learned they were suppose to wait..... long period of time before making baby, after the fact. the baby born with all kinds of problems. two years later and this mom struggling by herself raising this boy. the father fighting, wounded, then healing now being sent back. the baby takes all her time. she has to give kidney dialysis every night. she has to clean to pristine cause of dust and germs. horror story. this mother is kicking ass, and tired and afraid.

this young couple, this mother is now afraid to have another child.

so sad
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Marleyb Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:48 PM
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10. that is so sad
I had never heard that about the babies.

These are the stories that need to be told.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:23 PM
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4. I wonder what that shot REALLY does
MK-Ultra all over again?
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:45 PM
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7. Just to make things more interesting(tin hat warning)
this Wall Street Journal editorial draws interest in Faud El-Hibri,who owns BioPort
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/anthrax.htm

a suspicious person might see the connection between the anthrax scare,and Carlyle's interests
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:47 PM
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8. Unfortunately, I have personal experience with this
As a Marine we were ordered to begin the Anthrax vaccination program. No was not an option. Unless of course you wanted a Big Chicken Dinner (BCD or Bad Conduct Discharge). We were of course forced to endure a Naval Doctor's blathering on why the US uses it, how it will help you, how it has been in use since the 1970s, the "fact" 999 of 1000 have no adverse reactions, etc...

I asked a question, "Sir, are the studies on the long term effects of the vaccine on humans?"

Snide response, "Son, you can't use humans as test subjects."

Thinking he had shut me up he went to move on, slightly deterred, I pressed forward, with a follow up in a somewhat sarcastic tone, "I realize our government no longer tests potentially dangerous substances on Marines, unlike WWII and Vietnam, but I was wondering if Doctors had done any cross checking, with patients, noting patterns of strange or unusual illness cropping up in recipients of the Anthrax Vaccine."

The crowd of Marines, not used to a lowly fucking Cpl standing up and "disrespecting" a Commissioned Officer like this were aghast, (Side note: my MSgt chewed my ass for this one :)).

The Naval Doctor said he knew of no studies or work checking for such correlations amongst current and prior service members and moved on.

Fortunately, right now All service members can choose not to get the vaccination.

I ended up getting 5 doses.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:40 PM
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9. I worry about my son,who took the whole series.
Like you said,the long term studies are just not there(since there is only ONE manufacturer)
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