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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:59 PM
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What If Fitz Get's His Hands on the WH Email Server?
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 01:03 PM by Beetwasher
That thought is delicious.

I am pretty convinced that Rove's email to Hadley is a forgery meant to cover his ass (though admittedly my evidence is circumstantial and visceral). Apparently only Rove's copy of this email he supposedly sent to Hadley has be turned over to prosecutors. It wasn't found in initial searches by Rove OR Hadley (two distinct searches if my recollection is correct), and Rove only "found" his copy after Lusking spoke to V. Novak and knew Cooper was going to give up Rove. It's interesting how this email treats the coversation as so radically different than Cooper reports it.

I wonder what other gems might be found on that server. I bet it's a gold mine.

Will Fitz be able to get his hands on the server when this goes to trial?

That thought makes me giddy.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:03 PM
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1. Good question n/t
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:08 PM
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2. probably everything is shredded (electronically)
I don't believe they would leave anything on the server
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:10 PM
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5. That In Itself Is A Prosecutable Crime
n/t
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:10 PM
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3. That email wins an academy award any way you go.
Because it sets in place a factor which they didn't expect would prove the lie--Viveca Novak. The conversation with Luskin was long before they started becoming desperate to produce this email. Only when Luskin knew she was going to be contacted by Fitzgerald did this magic bullet appear.

If they made up this email after the fact, that's just sweeter than honey right out of the hive. But even the way it is, it cooked his goose.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:22 PM
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6. Even If It's Real
It shows he lied to the Feds.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:34 PM
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16. Rove's email to Hadley apparently "surfaced" & given to Fitz in 2004
before Rove's October 2004 testimony. (Not to be confused with a Rove email to press aide Adam Levine to meet and when they met Rove didn't mention his talk with Cooper that he'd just had minutes before...sort of a dog that didn't bark defense, so to speak. This email was disclosed by Luskin, as was his conversation with Vivie, in late October 2005 as part of his last minute dance to get Fitz to hold off on an indictment. Story here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9865842/site/newsweek/ )

Fitz apparently didn't know about Vivie until Luskin told Fitz about her apparently in an effort to "prove" that Rover didn't intentionally mislead investigators, that he simply forgot he spoke to Cooper until his formerly photographic memory was "restored" by Rove's email to Hadley they found after they looked again. Apparently Luskin's claiming that it was his conversation with Vivie is what generated another more thorough "search" for any email mentioning Rove's conversation with Cooper. Luskin's claim that Vivie's testimony would help Rove makes no sense to me and neither does the Hadley email itself seem to help Rove's case, but I guess it was a desperate Hail Mary pass to forestall Rover being indicted at the same time as Libby.

Especially since Rover's "restored" memory of the conversation as well as his email to Hadley varied significantly from Cooper's 2005 testimony and his contemporaneous notes of conversation that Time turned over to Fitz in summer 2005.

What's likely more significant in motivation for Rove's semi-restored memory than Vivie's conversation with Luskin (it may well be possible that Rover also "forgot" to mention to Luskin that he'd spoken with Cooper and so Vivie's info was indeed news to Luskin) was the fact that in May, August and Sept 2004 grand jury subpoenas were issued to Cooper and Time and when they didn't comply Time and Cooper were held in contempt of court in October 2004, days before Rover testified again to the grand jury. Fitz evidently was going to take it to the mat and made sense that Rover engage in at least a modified hang out at that time to attempt to diffuse the issue. Hence the Hadley email with Rover's cover story. (It may well be legit and was intended as a proactive CYA just in case it was ever needed, memorializing Rover's story should he need to remember it. And not knowing the dynamic between Hadley and Rove, it may have served some internal purpose as some have speculated.) Obviously the recovered memory and email didn't work: Fitz wanted Time and Cooper's story to nail the matter one way or the other and he eventually got it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:10 PM
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4. I think it could be too
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 01:11 PM by FreedomAngel82
To throw Fitzgerald off the case and to by time to spin some more.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:14 PM
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9. Yup
And provide some evidenct to soften the blow as it were, or to support Rove's story that he forgot about the conversation. Notice the content of the Hadley email makes it seem like Cooper called Rove to discuss something else entirely.
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boise1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:33 PM
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7. Wouldn't BushCo just be using AOL mail? n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:50 PM
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8. Heh?
:shrug:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:19 PM
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10. Down goes Bush! Down goes Bush! Down goes Bush! Down goes Bush!
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And I'm so glad. Finally.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:46 PM
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11. How much you want to bet that he already has?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 02:59 PM
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12. Is That Possible at this Stage?
:shrug:

Wouldn't something like that happen during the discover process, after indictments but before trial?

What makes you think he has it already? I would think there would have been some serious wrangling and motions that would happen before he would be able to get his hands on it and the WH would fight tooth and nail and we'd see some reporting on it.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:08 PM
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13. This is nothing yet.
Wait 'til we get the proof that he cooked this war. The Los Angeles riots will look like a Mother Theresa love in.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:11 PM
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14. What if CatWoman gets her hands on Beetwasher?
:D
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:02 PM
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17. Look Out!
Now THAT thought is delicious! :evilgrin:
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:13 PM
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15. From your lips to God's ear
>That thought is delicious.<

Oh, yes, it is.

Julie
president for life of the PFEB
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