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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:50 PM
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Happy Winter Solstice.
I will not celebrate man made holidays like christmas, Kwanzaa, and Easter, I will celebrate the beginning of the days growing longer. It is the resurrection of the sun. It is the hope of a spring and the resurrection of the green earth here in the north.

The Sun is real, it makes life possible here on earth. Those man made gods don't do a damn thing for me.

Sure, I will party down on Halloween and New Years. They are just fun, no real real baggage attached to them. Nobody trying to take away my rights because I do or don't celebrate these excuses for a party.
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:56 PM
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1. I think you mean Merry Christmas...
or do you hate America and baby Jesus, wrapped in swaddling red white and blue?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:06 PM
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5. I do?
Oh, I'm sorry. Merry birth of the Sun.
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:08 PM
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7. Don't forget the donkey.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:57 PM
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22. What is with all this "happy cheer"?
Personally, I think taking time off for a religious holiday absurd. If you want to use your vacation time, that's fine. But this country would be much more productive if it didn't come to a screeching hault the last 2 weeks of the year. It's one of the reasons this country is behind all the other nations in the world.
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 06:55 PM
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28. Here's a link to world-wide holiday list by country:
http://www.qppstudio.net/bankholidays2005.htm

A lot of the predominantly Christian countries celebrate Easter and Christmas for 2 days and also include Corpus Christi or All Souls Day or other Christian holy days.
Note that this is an English site, hence the term "bank holidays" for national or religious holidays on which businesses are closed.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:12 PM
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50. Work, work, work!
That's the Protestant Work Ethic for you! (Even if you no longer practice, you can't escape.)

Humans need holidays. We've used many different excuses to take time out, hang with friends & feast.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:57 PM
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2. Why do you hate Santa?
;)
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:58 PM
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3. Haven't you heard about the "War on Sunshine" ? (n/t)
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:03 PM
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4. Usedto be a real 'christmas' guy - no more
Going with Yule here. My ancestry is celt so why not. Most historians believe christ was born in spring, so let them move their holiday to the spring. They can have a birth-death-rebirth cycle in one week and leave the rest of us alone for 51 weeks.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:13 PM
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9. About Easter: they can keep the religious stuff, give me the
fertility aspects. They have the bunny, the flower, and the egg. We need something more explicit like a big erect penis, or better yet an engorged labia. That's more in the spirit of the season. Can you imagine the floats in the Easter parade?

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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:50 PM
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18. Ah easter parties would really become - uh - fun, yes FUN.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:54 AM
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35. don't forget the wesson oil and plastic sheet.
I'll bring the trampoline.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:00 PM
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37. May Poles, May Poles! ..... n/t
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:30 PM
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47. Bunnies and Eggs (and almonds) were all fertility laden symbols,
those same symbols still belong to the nature worshippers as well.

But a little more genitalia influenced symbology would do us a world of good.. have to agree with you 100% there.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:08 PM
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6. And a Happy New Year to you!
I'm done with "Christmas" too. When they start trying to make it a law to celebrate something - anything - I'm out.

And may the Merry Laplander leave good wishes and kindness beneath your Yule tree this year! :hi:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:13 PM
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8. ...All Hail Mighty Sol Invictus. Happy W. S. to you too!!!! n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:33 PM
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11. I am the King of the Bean.
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 04:34 PM by alfredo
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:29 PM
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10. And back at you, honey. I know what you mean. I don't practice as
a Christian anymore. I have no hope for them for the next few. Sol is King. So say my crocuses. ;)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:41 PM
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13. I wish my crocuses would get with the program.
Don't they believe/
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:39 PM
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12. do as thou wilt - i will join you in that
Dec. 25th makes a fine day to celebrate Yule, though - the day perceptably lengthens. before that its a holding pattern - barely perceptable.

Hallowed Eve - you better think twice before you say that day has no "baggage" attached.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:48 PM
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17. The people who would take all the fun out of it keep their
distance. That's what I mean by no baggage attached. Nobody is pushing the spiritual aspects of devils and such on people who just want to dress up and act silly.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:51 PM
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19. interesting, that.
i keep waiting for the pagan roots of "Easter", or "Oestara" to be exposed & the ensuing demand to call it by another name.

but the pagan lingers. because it is tied to nature, and until we figure a way to fuck up the sun, it always will.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 06:16 PM
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26. Fertility festivals kick ass!!!!
Ostara is chief among them.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 11:58 AM
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36. Let's face it, the pagan elements are what
make the holidays fun. Without them holidays (holy days) would be dreary shows of piety.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:39 PM
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40. That could make for some uncomfortable conversations.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:42 PM
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14. The Winter Festival
The Winter Festival: A Mystery Thinly Veiled


"Festivals are not merely the commemoration of historical events or personalities. They are in and of themselves, each year, spiritual events carrying a significance that grows and deepens with the developing phases of human evolution." — Rudolf Steiner


http://www.chiron-communications.com/winterfestival.html
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:47 PM
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15. You said it, Alfredo -- how dare these false religions
Edited on Tue Dec-13-05 04:47 PM by LostinVA
Take over and pervert my spiritual path!!!:spank:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:47 PM
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16. As a Christian, thank you
and happy Winter Solstice to you as well. With all the things people can say to you, wishing someone a happy anything is nice and should be accept as such. :hug:


Someone tells me Happy Hanukkah, great! Enjoy Kwanzaa, wonderful! Happy Holidays, thank you! And of course Happy Festivus, Happy Festivus, brother!


I'm alot more worried about the ones who just look at you and say "F-U"
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:52 PM
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20. I'm going to party and if anyone wants to join me,
great. So Happy Holidays no matter what you celebrate.

And Happy Saturnalia to anyone who is into full contact celebration.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 06:14 PM
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25. a friend of mine has posted over at Kos
on this silly season. Check her out.


http://sarahg.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/13/102627/24
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 04:53 PM
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21. Why do you hate Spring, Summer and Fall? n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:28 PM
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23. Happy Winter Soltice back at ya!
:toast:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:30 PM
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24. Blessed Yule to you, too.
I say, there OUGHT to be a "War on Christmas"--let's take this time of year back from the wackos who hijacked it in the first place. Everything about Christmas is pagan.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 06:51 PM
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27. He is the one God! He is the sun God!
RA! RA! RA!

and a good yule to you too!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:22 PM
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32. I love your sig line, Mongo. You are a warrior. Truly.
:evilgrin: Only since 2002?
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:56 PM
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34. Our humble store opened 11/15/02 n/t
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 07:03 PM
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29. Lets hear it for the Sun God
Ra Ra Ra
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 07:06 PM
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30. THANK YOU!
HAIL SATAN!

http://www.FuckChristmas.org

Lu Cifer, nuff said G!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 07:08 PM
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31. Happy solstice Alfredo
--IMM:hi:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:13 PM
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39. Thank you.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:25 PM
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33. this whoLe thread is darksided!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 12:01 PM
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38. Yup, sure it.
Isn't it refreshing?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:41 PM
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41. Thanks! You too! :^)
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:41 PM
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42. Quick somebody call "Dil D'oreally?". n/t
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mshasta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:13 PM
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43. ...always hope to see the sun the next day...
Have a great winter solstice :hug:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:20 PM
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44. Happy Festivus to all!


...as for the "airing of the grievances", that holiday observance happens all year round here in GD ;)
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:23 PM
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45. I am with you...
"Here comes the sun...."
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:25 PM
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46. Eostar is NOT a man made Holy Day
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 01:26 PM by Walt Starr
Eostar is the Vernal Equinox. Ostara is the first full moon after the Vernal Equinox.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:34 PM
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48. I took the implication as it is over what it has become.
How many friggin' ways is there to spell it? I always used Eostre... eggs and bunnies baby, eggs and bunnies.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:22 PM
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52. The celebrants were preliterate, so spelling is irrelevant.
The Church brought letters to the parts of Europe that had not been civilized by Rome.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:13 PM
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53. Ahhh like Qadafi!
You're right irrelevant.
have to admit though, Eostre has oodles of different spellings.

Runes dammit! Runes!
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:08 PM
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49. ring out, solstice bells...
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:21 PM
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51. Kwanzaa is not a religious holiday.
It is celebration of African & African-American culture. Yes, it was invented recently--because slavery (especially in our Protestant country) wiped out many African customs. Many celebrants also observe Christmas, or holy days of other faiths--especially Islam. Although I'm white, I do appreciate the African roots of much American culture.

Humans watching the skies invented Winter Solstice. I'll take any excuse to party.
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