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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:29 AM
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Laundry list -- List of bad things about Patriot's Act
Ok, I know this thing is bad and sneak and peek sucks.

Where is the definitive list of things that are nasty and bad about this law?

Just wondering as a talking point in future conversations.
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omshanti Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:34 AM
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1. check out the BORDC
Bill of Rights Defense Committe

There's the short and long versions, depending on how much time you have.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-03 10:41 AM
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2. Nice site! ACLU is also on it
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=11294&c=207

& I found this summary in my travels (from the AP):

Some of the fundamental changes to Americans' legal rights by the Bush administration and the USA Patriot Act following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks:

* Freedom of Association - Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigation.
* Freedom of Information - Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records requests.
* Freedom of Speech - Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
* Right to Legal Representation - Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
* Freedom from Unreasonable Searches - Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
* Right to a Speedy and Public Trial - Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
* Right to Liberty - Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.

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