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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:29 PM
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Can anyone give me a lead/link on theories of civilizations lasting
about 200 years before their decline? I can't seem to google the right phrase.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:36 PM
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1. google Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:38 PM
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2. My theory...
Civilization eventually becomes more trouble than it's worth.
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 01:53 PM
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3. When you define civilization do you mean a culture which has established
itself as a state? If you are, I believe your search for a single bullet theory for decline is fruitless.

Take for instance Athens, Rome and Spain. Each declined for different reasons although each sought to establish empires, yet each declined for different reasons. If you are looking for theories you could start with Wikipedias article on civilization. The article gives some excellent sources for study.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:10 PM
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4. Might want to check out Jared Diamond


FROM THE PUBLISHER
"In his Pulitzer Prize-winning bestseller Guns, Germs, and Steel, Jared Diamond examined how and why Western civilizations developed the technologies and immunities that allowed them to dominate much of the world. Now, Diamond probes the other side of the equation: What caused some of the great civilizations of the past to collapse into ruin, and what can we learn from their fates?" As in Guns, Germs, and Steel, Diamond weaves an all-encompassing global thesis through a series of historical-cultural narratives. Moving from the prehistoric Polynesian culture on Easter Island to the formerly flourishing Native American civilizations of the Anasazi and the Maya, the doomed medieval Viking colony on Greenland, and finally to the modern world, Diamond traces a fundamental pattern of catastrophe, spelling out what happens when we squander our resources, when we ignore the signals our environment gives us, and when we reproduce too fast or cut down too many trees. Environmental damage, climate change, rapid population growth, unstable trade partners, and pressure from enemies were all factors in the demise of the doomed societies, but other societies found solutions to those same problems and persisted.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=rz3sy8jCfD&isbn=0670033375&itm=2
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:16 PM
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5. 200 years? What about
Rome
China
Ancient Egypt
Japan
...?
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:42 PM
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6. Thanks everyone. You given me some good places to start and
some "warnings" to heed about how I'm going about this.
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