Congress in a trance about Iraq - Kucinich speech

Mr. Speaker, this resolution mentions the word VICTORY 6 times, but victory is not defined. We are assured this administration will know victory when they see it, just like they knew WMDs when they didn’t seem them. Supporters of this bill point to yesterday’s election as victory, but many were drawn to the polls by their overwhelming dislike of US occupation. They like us alright, they would like us to get out of their country. This fantasy victory resolution means more occupation, more war, more civil war, more deaths of our troops, and innocent civilians , more waste of taxpayer money, while this house is reduced to a bunch of cheerleaders in a bloody Baghdad ball sponsored by Halliburton. Congressman Paul and I have a resolution which will let Iraqis, through their new representatives, decide whether the occupation ends or not. You want sovereignty, you want self determination, or do you just want occupation, deception, fake news, fake policy and next year’s fake-out, partial troop withdrawals, while a permanent US presence is being built. These fake resolutions keep this congress in a stupor, almost a trance-like denial of conditions in iraq and how we got there. Wake up congress, wake up America, get out of Iraq.

See video from Liveoaktex

http://www.canofun.com/blog/videos/kucinichdec1605.wmv



Expressing the commitment of the House of Representatives to achieving victory in Iraq.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Mr. HYDE submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee

RESOLUTION
Expressing the commitment of the House of Representatives to achieving victory in Iraq. Whereas the Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, the first to take place under the newly ratified Iraqi Constitution, represented a crucial success in the establishment of a democratic, constitutional order in Iraq; and Whereas Iraqis, who by the millions defied terrorist threats to vote, were protected by Iraqi security forces with the help of United States and Coalition forces: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That— the House of Representatives is committed to achieving victory in Iraq; the Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, was a crucial victory for the Iraqi people and Iraq’s new democracy, and a defeat for the terrorists who seek to destroy that democracy; the House of Representatives encourages all Americans to express solidarity with the Iraqi people as they take another step toward their goal of a free, open, and democratic society; the successful Iraqi election of December 15, 2005, required the presence of United States Armed Forces, United States–trained Iraqi forces, and Coalition forces; the continued presence of United States Armed Forces in Iraq will be required only until Iraqi forces can stand up so our forces can stand down, and no longer than is required for that purpose; setting an artificial timetable for the withdrawal of United States Armed Forces from Iraq, or immediately terminating their deployment in Iraq and redeploying them elsewhere in the region, is fundamentally inconsistent with achieving victory in Iraq;

Stop the lies!

THROW THESE CROOKS IN JAIL FOR THEIR CRIMES!!!

Congress in a trance re: reality? Wake up is right!!! :grr:

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What a breath of fresh air to hear Dennis speak when the majority of the Prime Timers use weasel words and obfuscations.

Rec'd

A Death Toll Lower Than DC Murder Rate?

NPR Swallows Bush Guestimate on Iraqi Dead

By APRIL HURLEY, M.D.

To: Scott Inskeep
National Public Radio

Dear Mr. Inskeep:

Yesterday, on your National Public Radio Show, Morning Edition, you asked an "expert" to comment on G.W. Bush's evident ignorance. Your stooge pundit, Michael O'Hanlon, was satisfied with George's guestimate that 30,000 Iraqi civilians and combatants have been killed during 32 months of invasion and occupation. He suggested that G.W's figure doesn't include Iraqi crime victims. This proposes a mortality rate for Iraqis from combat alone that is lower than Washington D.C.'s homicide rate during the year of the latest stats, 2002. A war zone also safer than Baltimore, Detroit and New Orleans before Katrina. Perhaps a paid professional at NPR, who isn't busy doing the bidding of a White House propagandist, would wonder what's wrong with this picture and do some minimal investigation. Such as the most globally respected survey, an independent and heroic study on the casualties in Iraq, peer reviewed and published in The Lancet. A curious child could get those US city homicide figures and do the math!

I witnessed Shock and Awe in Baghdad and the tsunami of lies discounting those deaths. The bombing then was brutal and the occupation since has been a serial massacre. Iraq today is our massive Guernica. It is obscene that this war president continues in denial that he has, conservatively, caused the death of 150,000-200,000 Iraqi men, women and kids. And this after, conservatively again, more than 500,000 died under Clinton's promoting of UN sanctions. How can you National Public Radio people live with your complicity in hustling such horrific crimes and distortions about them. 

The tangled web of deception spun by NPR must feel like a cocoon for you by now! I am another outraged listener reminding all of you. We are an internet-literate audience; we won't tolerate being brainwashed by our own public airwaves. And the drivel you choose to distract us with at these critical times will serve to secure your indictment.

Increasingly outraged,
April Hurley, MD
http://www.counterpunch.org/hurley12142005.html
 

I don't give their news reports much weight. They don't lead. And they just report on what is fed to them.

I feel more bitter toward NPR--I almost hate them--than I do about the other war profiteering corporate news monopolies. I guess, because my expectations are higher. And they have snooty voices, and act like this kultuhed elite, that's supposed to know something. Liars, warmongers, just like the rest of them, but with a tinselly, sleazy veneer--like a saloon girl trying not to look out of place at the Opera.

Thank goodness we have people who think on our side.

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I think he says, "bloody Baghdad Bowl, sponsored by Halliburton."

Which is a perfect line, and this is a perfect little speech.

heart of the matter. I've never listened to anyone on the national scene who is so clear-headed (except Gore, over the last year). And it bothers me, re Kucinich, that we makes these judgments of candidates, based on standards and illusions dictated by the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, of what a candidate for president, for instance, should LOOK LIKE. It is so completely and totally irrelevant to good policy, character and truth. We've slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent people in Iraq, and are torturing no-name people all over th world, but what's important is a candidate's HAIR?

Yet we all do it--I do it, and I don't even have a TV these days. We ACCEPT the dictates of the liars and warmongers and illiterate assholes running TV "drivel" news departments, on how thick their necks should be, or how broad their shoulders--based on what we think other people think, because that's what the news monopolies what us to think other people think. But what if Kucinich's skinniness and seeming mousiness and bad hair were to come to symbolize strength of character, strong principles, brilliant speeches and good government? It could! I mean, look at Harry Truman, a strutting little runt of a man. Or look at Simone Signoret, an actress who sees homely at first glance-baggy eyes, face too big, wrinkles, overweight--but who becomes incredibly beautiful by the end of a film, by means of sheer force of character. Our news monopolies WON'T LET THAT HAPPEN. They won't let anything REAL happen in their highly managed and propagandistic, illusionary world. They won't let a Dennis Kucinich become president--or even have the national platform that he deserves. They won't let a baggy-eyed old woman become beautiful before your very eyes because of WHO SHE IS, not because she satisfies THEIR pre-packaged and very expensive, artificial image of a woman.

I keep waiting for the day when what must be a deep hunger for REALITY in the American soul rises up and nominates Dennis Kucinich or someone like him for president--someone totally out of the "blow-dried hairdo/30 seconds on the beach with his kids" mold. An anti-candidate. A real person.

Dean was pretty real--and look what they did to him. That's what they do. But he could run again, and perhaps hit stride just as the utter revulsion at our corporate-run political system, and demand for reality, erupted in the American soul.

I also keep waiting for someone to say, "I am running for president and I am going to turn down all but $5 contributions. When people hear this they will vote for me. And the word will spread like wildfire on its own, because that's what people want. An unbought and paid for president."

Wouldn't you love it?

We had that opportunity in '04, and the majority let it pass them by. What a perfect description of DK: strength of character, strong principles, brilliant speeches and good government. What American would not want such a person as commander in chief? Those controlled by pulpits and corporations, perhaps.

He has a certain charisma, but from reading other views on him, his attractiveness comes out more in person than on television.

If so please post. I'd like to see the video but don't know how or what to download to get the speech in video.

but I did include all of his speech that was on the video.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2318918

It's even better on video.

Wow. Too hot to handle. Truth tellers unelectable? What does that say for our state of affairs? Broken.

Go Dennis.