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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:01 PM
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We don't lose elections
because:

we have no message
we are anti-god
we are pro illegal immigration
we love abortions
we hate business

We lose elections for TWO reasons:
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The media we have had for decades now, has shielded republican candidates from bad press during active campaigning. They are fairly willing to grudgingly report on occasional republican scandals AFTER the elections have been "won", but of course it's too late then to make much difference.

While the corporate media protects republican candidates, they ardently latch onto every carefully crafted nuance that negates, belittles, or frames the democratic/progressive candidates' messages.

Why they do this?

The media we have is SPONSORED/CORPORATE-OWNED media, and the "anchors" are employees of companies that are all big time contributors to the "party of big business"..the GOP. The complicit message is: "You like that big house you got, those fancy cars, that fat paycheck?..Well you will only continue to get it, if the GOP is in power".
The media companies have become little more than venues to promote their own in-house ventures, and report on pop-cultural "issues". CNN cross pollinates with Time & warner & people...MSNBC does the same with Newsweek and their other cohorts.

They elevate "stories" into massive news events because they need to fill time.

Some have many channels that are just devoted to "business".They have 24-7 schedules, but they never have any "time" for more than a 45 second sound byte when things of consequence are discussed. A missing girl gets hours daily, and months later there are still "specials" about the "case", but when was the last time there was equal time devoted to real issues that millions of people deal with daily?

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We have a haphazard election system. It may not have mattered much in the past because we were not always as polarized as we have become. It matters now, because technology has finally started to become "real" to most of America. More and more people have started to pay attention. More people have computers, and are aware of the weird things that can (and do) happen to computers. We have grudgingly come to accept technology, but we still cling to paper. Paper is something you can look at again and again...you can hold it, look at it, interpret it, ask others to examine it. Most people do not understand HOW computers work, but they DO know that the internal workings CAN be tweaked by unseen persons, and those tweaks can affect how the computer operates. Everyone with a computer knows this.

People are starting to realize that our elections may never have been perfect before, but at least there were real people and real paper ballots involved. Ballot boxes may have been "stuffed" in the past, and dead people may have voted, but it was difficult for someone who wanted to fix an election to determine, how much of a fix was enough. The way we vote now, makes it easier to do, and until politicians take a serious look, we will never again be sure who really won any election.

Politicians of ALL "flavors" seem to be deliberately ignoring the voting issue, because to them, it's not as big of a deal as it is to us. Once elected, it's hard to lose subsequent elections, and even if they do, there is a lobbying job waiting for themor a board of directors' gig. They like being "in office" but their personal lives are not ruined if they lose.

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:02 PM
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1. I agree 100% n/t
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:04 PM
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2. Great post. K&R n/t
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:05 PM
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3. We don't lose them - They are taken from us
I'm not so sure that the majority of Americans aren't in our corner.

The exit polls support us, but the rigged voting machines do the bidding of their Republican overlords.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:06 PM
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4. and of course the media readily accepted the discontinuing of
exit polls.. Why is that?? They should have been screaming from the rooftops, yet they tucked their tails, apologized, and continue to claim that exit polls are bunk...UNLESS it's a foreign election...then they are the gold standard..
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:08 PM
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6. The media are complicit
Their "apathy" is damning.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:21 PM
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8. apathy except for stupid stuff
Thay have horus and hours of that.
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:20 PM
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7. yes
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:08 PM
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5. Nicely stated. Excellent post.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 06:25 PM
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9. I was thinking the exact thing this morning.
And it's true. We need to unreevaluate ourselves. We're fine.
(Except I still don't get Gore picking Mumbling Joe for a mate)
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:15 PM
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10. I agree 100%
There are 3 issues that MUST be addressed before I will have any hope for the future of my country:

1. Media Reform & the return of the Fairness Doctrine

2. Voting & election reform

3. Campaign finance reform & the end of lobbying as we now know it

Without these, we will never get back what we once had; without these, we will never achieve the full potential inherent in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:21 PM
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11. Lobbying should be a federal offense
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:27 PM
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12. yep, again i say. when have you heard one positive thing about
dems as a whole or any partcular dem. but we hear how the repugs are straight talkers, christians, party of family value, guts, fiscally responsible yada yada yada. not once have i heard anything positive about dems. not once.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:42 PM
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13. Of course, this is not 100% correct, because
for example, it is necessary to sustain the ILLUSION of a) freedom of press and b) Democracy.
The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum--even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.
--Noam Chomsky

But it is obvious that something has changed. The "oiligarchy," "secret government" (or what have you) that pedals power, intrigue, money and influence behind the scenes seems to care less and less about sustaining any image that our government actually works on our behalf. I say over and over again, their long range strategy is to create the conditions where by our fellow citizens will accept the suspension of our Constitution. In recent years they have become sufficiently brazen about this agenda, and have such contempt for our Republic, that they are willing to install a moral and intellectual slug in the Office of the President and KEEP him there through two election cycles while simultaneously siphoning hundreds of billions of dollars from our treasury under the guise of a "War on Terrorism" (tm).
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:45 AM
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14. If the media
did their job and reported fairly of both parties, there would be such a minority of Republicans that they would hardly hold any offices, except maybe in places like Utah and Alabama.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:49 AM
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15. excellent, SoCalDem! thank you for posting this! eom
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