10,000 files collected for Bush's enemy's list: Wilson, Moore, Boxer, Kos

During the John Bolton hearings for the UN post, it was revealed that when he was at the State Department, he requested and recieved summaries of intercepts between foreigners and "U.S. persons" and got the NSA to tell him who the U.S. citizens were. They gave up whatever files he requested without asking why he wanted the dossiers or what they were to be used for.

Newsweek reported on Aug.10 that from January 2004 to May 2005, the National Security Agency had supplied names of some 10,000 American citizens in this informal fashion to policy makers throughout the government, other American intelligence services and law enforcement agencies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/10/opinion/10keefe.html?ex=1281326400&en=bd9166e55789a526&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

and,

Capitol Hill Blue reported on Nov.8 the discovery of an enemy's list on a Bush database by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald during his investigation of the Valerie Plame leak. CHB reported that:

". . . aided by the USA Patriot Act, the Bush Administration has compiled dossiers on more than 10,000 Americans it considers political enemies and uses those files to wage war on those who disagree with its policies.

The “enemies list” dates back to Bush’s days as governor of Texas and can be accessed by senior administration officials in an instant for use in campaigns to discredit those who speak out against administration policies or acts of the President."

The computerized files include intimate personal details on members of Congress; high-ranking local, state and federal officials; prominent media figures and ordinary citizens who may, at one time or another, have spoken out against the President or Administration.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7625.shtml


Doesn't this frickin stink to the moon? How do these two accounts mesh?

Here's Bush popping out of nowhere to 'admit' that he authorized the spying of American citizens. Were all of the targets of Bush's authorizations people that the NSA chose to investigate, or were the names initiated from within the White House? This has the look of a CYA move to head off a Fitzmas scrutiny of the president. This at least puts Bush in the chain that led to Joe Wilson's wife's name getting dug up to deflect from Uraniumgate.

from the CHB article:

"White House insiders tell disturbing tales of invasion of privacy, abuse of government power and use of expanded authority under the USA Patriot Act to dig into the personal lives of anyone the administration deems an enemy of the state."

Bush wants to look like Reagan but keeps comin' up Nixon.

I'd like to think that the above allegations will get some sunlight, some press, some action. But why should I believe things will be any different now?

Too bad.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x8816

This fascist asshole chimp makes Nixon look like a radical lefty.

country.

His family was very nice and always polite.

I may not have agreed with his politics but he was a skilled politician.

can you imagine Nixon with the Patriot Act, wielding it against his 'enemies'?

as far as we know.

The problem with Bush is he has been allowed to go crazy with no intervention.

The FISA was sponsored in the ‘60's by Sen. Edward Kennedy and others in an attempt to reign in warrantless surveillance. The law was enhanced after the Nixon abuses of power. But, the FBI and the NSA have used the act to do their dirty work in secret courts and have perverted the act to conduct surveillance for domestic criminal investigations in addition to their foreign counterintelligence probes.

We're looking at orders of magnitude greater corruption and criminality.

would have been had he reached the White House.

Assuming what we don't know is even worse, it's time to say good-bye to the notion of the land of the free.

you thinks being a dictator is just fine and dandy, and thumbs his nose at the constitution

and yup - can't call him Nixon-lite - it's more like NIXON-Extreme

meanwhile - any bets the NY Times issues some sort of "apology" for publishing the wire-tapping story?

to feel like they/we are under attack.

It's psychological warfare. :nuke:

or a totalitarian banana republic? :grr: :grr: :grr:

like Zarqarwi... this shows the Patriot Act was not for hunting Osama but was for destoying all who spoke out against Bush...

:argh:
The Gestapo is here...

compiling information on various political enemies in the state and leaking damaging information on opponents to friends in the press. The list grew during Bush’s first run for President in 2000 but the names multiplied rapidly after the terrorist attacks of 2001 and passage of the USA Patriot Act. Using the powers under the act, Rove expanded the list to more than 10,000 names, utilizing the FBI’s “national security letters” to gather private and intimate details on American citizens.

National security letters, which can be issued by an FBI supervisor without a judge’s review or approval, allows the bureau to examine the telephone calls, correspondence and financial lives of any Americans.

The FBI issues some 30,000 national security letters a year to employers, credit bureaus, banks, travel agencies and other sources of information on American citizens. The Patriot Act also forbids anyone receiving such a letter to reveal they have passed on information to the federal government.

“Those letters helped us build files quickly on those we needed to know more about,” says a former White House aide.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7625.shtml

"...has compiled dossiers on more than 10,000 Americans it considers political enemies and uses those files to wage war on those who disagree with its policies."

I find this interesting.

Bush has "dossiers" on more than 10,000 Americans. He then "wages war on those who disagree".

What does that mean?

What is in these "dossiers?". Does he collect dirt on people and then blackmail them? Is the blackmail the "war" that he "wages?".

Or does he do other things...ruin careers? Get people fired? Etc?

10,000 Americans. That is A LARGE number of people. That's 200 people from each state.

How do you "wage war" on that many people?

I'm thinking he has a great deal of henchmen helping him out. Man, this stinks.

The Congress critters have more than likely been threatened too.

If it can be proved that he was spying on mail or email of Congress members, he's finished as president. He'll be out like Nixon, in spite of the pub majorities in congress.

Congressmen? Senators? Journalists? Corporate leaders?

Let's all look back in time and remember how quickly he backed off from his attack on bush right after he published his book. He backpedaled so fast that almost every one of us on DU thought he had been threatened with something, we just couldn't prove what.

Now we're getting closer to the truth.

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill charges in a new book that ... bush entered office in January 2001 intent on invading Iraq and was in search of a way to go about it.

O'Neill, fired in December 2002 as part of a shake-up of bush's economic team, has become the first major insider of the bush administration to launch an attack on the putzident.

He likened bush at Cabinet meetings to "a blind man in a room full of deaf people," according to excerpts from a CBS interview to promote a book by former Wall Street Journal reporter Ron Suskind, "The Price of Loyalty."

http://www.forbes.com/home_europe/newswire/2004/01/10/rtr1205827.html

I would bet good money that 99 percent of everyone who has ever had personal or sustained contact with bush is on that list.

Spy on me you piece of CRAP chimp! I DARE YOU! I'll blow your ear drums out blasting Queen, AC/DC, X and Billy Idol, I'll bore you to tears watching me weed my garden & water my plants, and I'll most DEFINITELY make you wish you never spied on my masturbation habits!!!!!!!!! Did I really just say that?! No, I typed it actually, oopsy!

Lu Cifer, that's L-u, space for new word, C-i-f-e-r, please make a freakin NOTE of it!

But that's neither here nor there.

I'm a member of so many radical organizations. I'm probably high up on the list.

'Welcome to the re-opening of your FBI files'

eom

Damn.

:thumbsdown:

"Everybody's got something to hid 'cept for me and my monkey"

If you're a reporter who's got a girlfriend on the side and you don't want your wife or more particularly your rich and powerful father in law to find out about it--you're going to turn a blind eye to certain things because you know that they know and that they will fuck with you.

My only hesitency in believing this is that this comes from Capital Hill Blue--not the most reliable source. It has the ring of truth though.

I remember freeps cheered him when he reported on campaign finance investigations of the Clintons. I'll bet they cheered less when he wrote about Bush's "erratic behavior". But, . . . who knows about these things? The truth's likely somewhere inside of the lies.

Might change your thoughts.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2319556&mesg_id=2319556

Readers can judge for themselves whether or nothe's credible or spouting nonsense. This rings so true that I have to believe that this paranoid WH, obsessed with discrediting their political rivals, would use the new Patriot Act funds to kick their retaliation campaigns into hi-tech gear.

(and mine may well be) how can we find out???

Is it like being on McCarthy's blacklist?

:freak:

We ALL are on "the list."

I do love your work. :loveya:


How are you my sweet friend? They are saying we may get snow on Wednesday, can you believe it, a hurricane that kicked our ass and now snow. :freak:

I wonder what it will be like to be in my FEMAnsion in the snow?

Stay warm and know you are loved! :hug: :loveya:

:D I hope you will be warm this Winter. It's possible I might have hot water by x-mas, but I'm not home yet to work on it... only a few more days! :hug:

I don't know if you guys are supposed to get the snow -- I sure hope you get that hot water heater working.

Are you returning for good or just the holidays?

You stay warm too and don't give up the faith -- we have to keep hope alive, we just have to. :hug: :loveya:

I'd like to see if Takebackthemedia.com is on there, wonder if it'll ever be published :)

I know that EVERY TIME I go through security at airports, I have to do the Jesus Imitation, arms outstretched, sandals, long hair..

I have democratic activist family members in 4 states. All of us had weird phone problems and we openly talked about the good possibility that bush had us all tapped. Now I guess that wasn't so far fetched.

I can only say that he is a low life, paranoid scumbag. Sheesh

years.

I put nothing past Rove.