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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:30 PM
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Sears Employee said "Merry Christmas" to me and I was offended
I was offended because that phrase is now a Republican slur. Good job, GOP.


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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:38 PM
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1. Lighten up. Screw the Republicans.
"Merry Christmas" is or at least still should be "Merry Christmas." This is all just bullshit. Leave it to the Repubs to fuck up a beautiful holiday. And in closing, let me just say Merry Christmas!

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:40 PM
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3. How about "Merry Christmas, unless you're a Republican, and if
you are, go fuck yourself."
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:59 PM
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9. Not all republicans are with that
Just a few loudmouth selfish people.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:58 AM
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19. In my opinion all Republicans can go Cheney themselves, they
have been doing it to us far too long and are generally beyond redemption. BTW most Republicans are loudmouth selfish people.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:39 PM
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2. Just say "Hey! Christmas isnt for another 8 days"
but there are plenty of other celebratory days around so....


HAPPY FUCKING HOLIDAYS!!!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:43 PM
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4. Ha ha
I might have, but the store employee looked so sheepish saying it that I expect she's been beaten up by people making her say "Merry Christmas" or vice versa. I think they should just drop the practice entirely. I'd rather walk out of the store unmolested by political OR religious statements.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:00 AM
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10. Or maybe have it
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 12:01 AM by FreedomAngel82
to where it's a personal option. If someone wants to say "happy holiday's" let them. Same with "Merry Christmas." That's what I would do if I ran a business.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:16 AM
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13. Yeah, but one never knows what the customer is thinking
I was thinking "Did they say that to me because they want to make a political point about Christmas?" and "I wonder how she knows I'm not Jewish, or Muslim, or an atheist?"

I think the only answer is to quit interjecting these talking points into the shopping experience.

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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:57 AM
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16. :)
I'm gonna borrow that.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:46 PM
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5. It's the new "Support the Troops". Republicans will lay claim to somethin
so universal.
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twenty4blackbirds Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:47 PM
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6. War on Christmas is online!
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 11:48 PM by twenty4blackbirds
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SeattleVet Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:57 PM
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7. We had lunch at a restaurant today, and when the check came
the server had written "Merry Christmas" on my copy of the reciept.


I added in the tip, totaled it all up, and wrote "Happy Solstice!" on the credit card slip.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:57 PM
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8. Isn't it sad?
:(
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:19 AM
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14. Yeah, it's sad if they thought it would promote Christmas
Because they just caused me to wonder what the fuck they were doing. And I wouldnt have done that last year or any of the years before. Basically the GOP echo chamber spoiled the last remaining goodwill I had about Christmas.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:02 AM
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11. Don't they have a way of making everyday Reverse Day?
Last night, I went to a neighbor's house for a Christmas party and a few of the moms were complaining that our kids' schools are not able to indulge in any Christmas projects, sing any Christmas songs or even mentioning Christmas in any sense. They were told by the teachers that too many parents were too sensitive to all kids celebrating Christmas, so they had to stop. They started making rude statements like, "If they don't like the holiday our country celebrates, then go back to Israel." I about fell over in horror.

The only sensitive people I know of are the born again Christians who would allow kids to dress up on Halloween because it was "so evil". I've never heard progressives/liberals attack Christmas except in O'Reilly's spin. I only heard of one Jewish lady ask a teacher to please include the jewish holiday when celebrating for those who are Jewish.

Am I wrong on this? I don't see people too liberal for Christmas. Quite the contrary. I was just blown away and didn't know what to say.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:09 AM
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12. The intolerance is amazing
Even though I'm a Christian I would like to know about other holiday's and I would've loved to have a time in school to learn about other faiths and traditions. It would make the culture so much richer and your lives as well. You can understand where someone comes from. Next time when someone goes on about how "evil" Halloween is tell them the same thing. If they don't like how our country celebrates Halloween than they can go to somewhere else too. I get so tired of that nonsense!!!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:05 AM
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26. I can see that we're in sync
And frankly, I say whatever I damn well please, because media hype rolls off my back like...well... like water.

I have no compunction saying "Merry Christmas." Of course, that COULD be because, I, too, am a Christian. And, if someone responds with "Happy Hannukah," I'm not the least bit offended.

For the past forty years, just to be a smart-aleck, I also have enjoyed saying, "Season's Greetings!" as a jape. But, then, I've always been a little ahead of the pack.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:19 AM
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28. I went to school in Arizona
and we did learn about the Hannukah during the holidays.
We made menorrahs, played with the dreidl, learned of the customs and history behind each, etc.
That was in the 70's.
It just seems we have regressed so much since that time.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 12:42 AM
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39. The nonsense only compounds itself
Love your response. Unfortunately, many people live their houses on Halloween and only celebrate with their church friends. How sad it is for the little kids going house to house, not understanding why so many people aren't home to see them in their cute costumes. Frankly, I don't understand either. They sure know how to take fun out of life.
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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:47 AM
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15. Story time
I worked at a upscale retail store, 6 christmas' ago, It wasn't enforce but they perfered Happy Holidays, to Merry Christmas. Ok this was around the time that Tom Green (Hope people have heard of him) was extremely popular, So I decided to be a Tom Green wannabe and just say silly stuff instead of either of the above to people after I thanked them for shopping at the store. I'd wait on someone that was white and say "Happy kwanzaa" with a straight face, I get a strange look most of the time. I wait on someone that was black and say "Happy Hanukkah" and same would happen. My manager was a super sweetheart that loved to laugh, she thought it was cute, and my co-workers of all races laughed their a$$ off about it. We all came to the conclusion that maybe the customers thought I was saying Merry Christmas in another language, because I never got any complaints about it. I did have one white old lady say to me I'm not a N*****, after saying "Happy Kwanzaa" I turned it around on her saying I was blind I didn't know, she then says well I wondered while you short changed me change, I then say to her I'm color blind and don't try and rip me off lying, get out of this store you racist old bag. I'd actually heard about this old lady from co-workers later, who said she was like the long lost twin of Marge Schott.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:00 AM
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17. I'm an atheist and I say "Merry Christmas" because the whole thing now...
seems to have very little to do with a magic baby born under curious circumstances.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:03 AM
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20. Love your post. There is a carol here "Oh little magical baby,
your Momma did not f**k, but you got born anyhow, what some amazing luck!" (To the tune of "Oh! Little Town of Bethlehem") Username, Robert or the deodorant?
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:43 AM
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30. Second verse: "Suspected as a cuckhold, your father did not
bitch, he knew Mom's virgin story would make the churches rich."
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:38 PM
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42. This line is stupid, the magical baby didn't have a father, he was
magical. Change "your father" to "old Joseph."
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:35 PM
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35. Thanks...
username is from Big Bob. I've never used the deoderant. Always been too afraid it smell would smell like weed, whiskey, and an old raincoat :)
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:36 PM
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41. Figured as much, never used that deodorant either, but of
course my sweat doesn't stink and my farts don't smell.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:57 AM
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25. I am an atheist, too.
And I don't give a damn if someone says "Merry Xmas" or "Happy Holidays" to me.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:40 AM
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29. "magic baby born under curious circumstances"
Good one. Hope you don't mind, I'm going to "borrow" that.



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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:17 AM
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32. Help me with my Christmas carol "Oh Little Magical Baby"
above.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:38 PM
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36. Use away! It's my gift to you.
Merry Christmas :)
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:14 AM
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18. Yeah, it's unbelievable what the Culture Wars have come to ...
What were once innocuous phrases -- "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Holidays" -- have become politically charged, even vicious.

And to think that this "war" wasn't started by "athiest" or "Christian-hating" liberals, but by essentially Republican corporations that are trying to widen their customer base so they can make more money.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:48 AM
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24. Yes it's disheartening. They ARE the grinches who stole Christmas.
When a stranger says "Merry Christmas" to me I can't help but wonder 'Now what is the person's agenda?'

That is sad.

Saying "Merry Christmas" to somebody should be a gesture of goodwill devoid of any hidden meaning.

Saying "have a nice holiday" to a stranger should also be a gesture of goodwill devoid of any hidden meaning other than, 'since I don't know your religious affiliation or other, I will respect you by not imposing my religious celebration on you. I will also respect my own religious views by not turning the birth of my Lord and Saviour into an empty and possibly hostile gesture.'

By the way, I made a point of shopping at my local Target store because they're under attack by the right wing nutjobs. The parking lot was full so I guess at least in New Jersey the boycott is not working.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:30 AM
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21. say, "I'm sorry I lost my job under GWB, so I'll be having a cheap xmas"
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:31 AM
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22. I like to reply "Happy Winter Solstice!"
:toast:
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:31 AM
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23. hey..a Sear employee told me the same thing last week! BUT...
it's not store policy because the person at the register next to her was just saying, "Have a nice day."

But...I did indeed use that "cheap xmas" line. And I ended by saying, "Well, have a nice day."
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:15 PM
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37. Well I was surprised at my own reaction and didn't say anything
It did tick me off to be so assaulted when I left the store, however. Last year if the same thing had happened, I would have said "merry christmas" or "same to you" or something like that and left quite happily. Christmas is now officially dead to me.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:15 AM
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27. Well they have a "way" with words
Look at the other words that they tainted, including
"democracy".

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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:26 AM
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31. "Thanks, but I'm Jewish!"
I'm not, really, but it sends a message about diversity.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:28 AM
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33. If we quit enjoying the holidays because of RW talking points...
then the terrorists have won.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:04 AM
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34. Sears gave money to Tom Delay after he was indicted, right?
Another place I don't shop (besides Walmart).

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:19 PM
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38. don't be offended
The true spirit of Christmas is in YOUR heart and how you express it throughout the year -- it's not in a phrase that a clerk has to say out of fear of being reprimanded

Someone who is "required" to say Merry Christmas neither diminishes nor enhances my Christmas. Without the sincerity and true well-wishes behind it - the phrase "Merry Christmas" is as empty as bush*'s head...
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:01 AM
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40. Exactly - one's obligations are every day, not just one day of the year NT
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