Zogby: McCain would defeat Hillary 52-37 percent

Why? mainly because Independents would support McCain overwhelmingly over Hillary.

However, Hillary leads among Democrats for the party nomination with more than twice the level of support than second placer Ex-Senator John Edwards.

McCain leads among Republicans narrowly over Rudy Giuliani and Rice.

However for '06, Democrats are looking strong--leading in Blue States by twenty-points on the generic congressional ballot and trailing by only 3-points in Red states.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1050

We need to nominate someone who can unite Democrats and yet bring in enough Indies to win. Indies are McCain's strength.

and has been linked with McCain, for instance, on campaign finance. He might be a good choice to appealing to Indie voters.

But it would definitely be a comfortable win for McCain.

I say no Hillary in 08. Please can't we come up with somebody better, please, so we can win?

Seriously. He is publicly against the war in Iraq, but since he is a private citizen, he didn't have to say anything that could damage him politically like Kerry's "I voted for before I voted against" thing. (Yes, I KNOW the reason behind Kerry's declaration, and I agree with his reasoning; but the reich-wingers twisted it so it would bite him in the tail.)

Al Gore's potential comeback is being compared to Richard Nixon's in 1968. Nixon was the last person to come to the Presidency from private life. Al Gore would be a tremendous candidate.

i dont wnat hillary to run, not a fan, but i say this is bogus

Maybe if she took a stand on something and quit checking the political winds.

I have seen lots of polls where Hillary leads for the Democratic nomination.

The amount of people who have already decided to vote against her would be extremely difficult to overcome. I think a Clark/Warner ticket would be great. They complement eachother well (Clark's foreign/military experience, Warner's domestic/elective experience) and are both down to earth, easy to understand, and confident about where they stand.

Regardless, this poll is reason #7437 why Hillary should not be our nominee. I like her in the senate.

McCain has always led Hillary in these polls, AFAIK

i dont want either to run, but i especially dont want mccain to win. i have a tough time seeing mccain do so well, i dont know a single repug that likes the man

The Freepers are not representative of Republicans.

mccain a repug. and all my friends and family are repug. other than that you are right, not around a whole lot of those ole repugs. actually i have one person here that is kinda liberal. one. she voted kerry, but you ought to talk to her about the welfare queens as she lives off her father at 43. so would hardly consider her a liberal

but good guess

They have this thing called primaries....

Fact is Hillary is by far the leading choice of most Democrats for the nomination--all polls show this. McCain has more of a problem than Hillary with his party--but if he does get nominated most Reps would support him over Hillary becuz they absolutely hate her and McCain is very strong with Indies.

and she's fine exactly where she is.

Keeping two families in control of the US for over two decades is not something we should ever consider.

Of course, the Republicans are positively rhapsodic over the prospect of her candidacy in 2008. Ask yourselves why. Really.

These are two possibles who could appeal to the fence sitters. I'm sure there are others, but those are the two I immediately think of when imagining a campaign against a "moderate" like McCain.

Along with Feingold and Warner deserves very close watching too.

Warner's OK I guess but not very inspiring. He spent the whole speech giving us his resume about what he did in Virginia but said very little about WHY he wanted to be President and generally wasn't very inspiring.

I really like Edwards and Obama by far of the one's I've seen.

Edwards was channeling Bobby Kennedy when he spoke. It was an excellent and inspiring speech about the poor in this country and around the world and that's the kind of compassion that's missing in the "compassionate" conservatives...

I would certainly support another Kerry-Edwards ticket as I was a very early and enthusiastic supporter of Kerry's going back to 2003 and I think he still badly wants the job and would make a great President. I think it's important not to keep putting new guys up all the time who haven't run before and keep making the same mistakes.

Edwards was more charismatic than Kerry but both are charismatic speakers. Obama was a great speaker also though and I could go with any mix of the three.

Al Gore would be ok too now that he's loosened up but NO WAY can he choose Lieberman as his running mate if he decides to run. That guy ought to just go change his party affiliation right now considering how much he apologizes for Bush all the time. What do they have on him anyways? Pictures of him golfing with Satan?

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

I just saw both of them speak at last weeks Florida Democratic Party convention and they are by far the best speakers we've got.

Does anyone have polling numbers for a McCain vs. Edwards or McCain vs. Obama matchup?

Doug D.
Orlando, FL

According to several polls and exit polls during the primaries, Edwards has the broadest appeal of any of the potential Democratic nominees. Here's a recent one:

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2005/11/pew_poll_good_n.html

Pew Poll: Good News for McCain, Edwards
An independent poll conducted last month by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press shows Arizona Sen. John McCain (R) and former North Carolina senator John Edwards (D) as the 2008 presidential candidates with the most potential crossover appeal among registered voters.

RUSS FEINGOLD

She rubs too many people the wrong way--she's every mental patient's Nurse Ratched...
I DON'T think she's going to beat the GOP.

nm

Crap!!!!...........PERIOD

if by some miracle she were elected. We must fight hard against the Democratic leadership's forcing her nomination. (By the way, I'm sure the Rethugs are working for it too - it would be win/win for them.)

ed:typos

:toast:

Bush is making Kerry look better all the time. There are a lot of pubs now that wish that they had voted for Kerry...imho

But, I don't think he's our best choice for the next presidential candidate--too much baggage from the previous campaign.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

Barring a conservative Republican making a suicidal third party run, that is. I don't see any Dem that could carry enough of the far left to win the primaries and not get crushed by McCain among independents. The best hope - and a realistic possibility - is that McCain is beaten in the primaries by the right winger like Allen.

It cannot be Hillary, We might as well give up now. There is no way, with a war going on, that the public would elect a female at the helm. I am female and I realize this. We need a charmer, a good looking, nice spoken charmer like Clinton was. That simple...

I'M TIRED OF TWO FAMILIES RUNNING THE USA.

for God's sake it's 2005!!!!!!!!!! We haven't even had the 2006 elections. Both these people could be dead (as could the people who answered this poll), disgraced or un-willing to run in 2008.

....She's going to be too busy serving as the Senate majority leader working with President Wesley Clark...occassionally having lunch with U.N. Secretary General, Bill Clinton.

So speaketh Hyernel, thy Lord.

That photo opt of Bush and McCain during the flooding in New Orleans will sink him. Hillary isn't afraid to go negative early and often. McCain won't win the Republican nomination anyways. The neocons sank him 5 years ago and they will sink him again. Plus in 5 years he's gotten chubbier and balder. Neither good for a presidential run.

and two of the other first four primaries. They likely will add a state, in between Iowa and NH, possibly SC, which will most certainly push Hillary out of the game. I also doubt Hillary will win Iowa.

Polls from the early primary states would paint a more accurate picture than polls from states who have late primaries, that don't matter.

Focus, people, focus!