Just because the illegitimate Cheney believes in it, US is more fascist

BurtWorm

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Tue Dec-20-05 09:26 PM
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Just because the illegitimate Cheney believes in it, US is more fascist

"I believe in a strong, robust executive authority and I think that the world we live in demands it," said Mr. Cheney, who was in many ways the intellectual instigator of the rapid expansion of presidential authority as soon as Mr. Bush came to office.

Today, he made no effort to play down his central role in aggressively seizing those powers, citing his early battle to keep private the names of people he consulted while drawing up recommendations for Mr. Bush on energy policy. That effort was ultimately upheld in the courts.

Mr. Cheney appears to have been the first senior administration official to brief a very small number of Congressional leaders on the program and the underlying technology that has permitted the National Security Agency to find and immediately tap into "hot numbers" - telephone calls and e-mail messages suspected to contain communications between terror suspects in the United States and abroad.

Ordinarily, any tap that includes one party inside the United States has required obtaining a warrant from a secret court that oversees the enforcement of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - itself an effort to address of the abuses during the Watergate scandal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/20/politics/20cnd-cheney.html?ei=5094&en=223fd4492082b73d&hp=&ex=1135141200&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

That's what it all boils down to: Cheney thinks the world demands a US dictator, Bush is a weakling, ergo the US has a dictator.

Cheney, you repulsive selfish pig. You disgust me.

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Canuckistanian

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Tue Dec-20-05 09:29 PM
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1. He hasn't got many facts right

He repeats utter falsehoods, makes bad predictions and has a caveman's view of civilization.

Why should anyone trust HIS judgement?

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BurtWorm

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Tue Dec-20-05 09:30 PM
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2. The US is totally fucked up after just one Bush term.

That's evidence enough Cheney is an idiot as well as a bully.

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BurtWorm

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Tue Dec-20-05 09:35 PM
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3. Compare the views of a legal scholar with those of Big Dick

Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 09:35 PM by BurtWorm

"Some legal questions are hard," Professor Stone said. "This one is not. The president's authorizing of N.S.A. to spy on Americans is blatantly unlawful and unconstitutional."

Mr. Cheney, unsurprisingly, took the opposite view, noting that he has been expressing his views on the subject as far back as 1987, when, as a Republican member of Congress from Wyoming, he contributed to the minority views in the Congressional report on the Iran-contra affair.

"Part of the argument in Iran-Contra was whether or not the president had the authority to do what was done in the Reagan years," he said. "And those of us in the minority wrote minority views that were actually authored by a guy working for me, one of my staff people, that I think are very good at laying out a robust view of the president's prerogatives with respect to the conduct of especially foreign policy and national security matters."

Asked if the proper balance had been restored under Mr. Bush, he said, "I do think it's swung back."

Not too eloquent, are you, Dickie boy? But we get the picture. You're an ignorant rube with power. That's about the disheartening (so to speak) size of it.

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Trillo

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Tue Dec-20-05 10:00 PM
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4. Such brazen hypocrisy.

citing his early battle to keep private the names of people he consulted while drawing up recommendations for Mr. Bush on energy policy.

He battles to keep his buddies out of any investigation, then, subjects citizens (anyone else not his buddy?) to surveillance.

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BurtWorm

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:03 AM
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5. So very true.

Excellent observation! :toast:

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