Proof of an Intelligent Designer is proof of HIS Intelligent Designer

Cronus Protagonist

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Tue Dec-20-05 11:03 PM
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Proof of an Intelligent Designer is proof of HIS Intelligent Designer

Using the identical argument.

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DavidDvorkin

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Tue Dec-20-05 11:11 PM
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1. John Stuart Mill

Who said something like, "My father taught me ask, if God created the Universe, then who created God?"

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lvx35

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Tue Dec-20-05 11:12 PM
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2. good one!

The idea that intelligence can't arise spontaneously requires an infinite line of intelligent creators! Hehe I never thought about that. well, maybe god was the product of random chance and natural selection. ;)

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TheWraith

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:34 AM
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5. Actually, I've advanced that argument.

If evolution is the gradual improvement of a species for the benefit of its continuance, then the logical endpoint would be an omnipotent, immortal being capable of reproducing its own genesis process. To wit, evolution produces gods.

The thing I love about this theory is that it can be used to induce brain paralysis in both fundies and the equally dogmatic ultra-athiests who insist that anyone who believes anything else is stupid.

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lvx35

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:56 AM
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7. Damn, that's even better!!!!

Schweeet!

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Brundle_Fly

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Wed Dec-21-05 01:07 AM
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8. only problem we have on our road to omnipotence

is blowing up the world.

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lvx35

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Wed Dec-21-05 02:01 AM
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9. Yeah, that does put a little damper on things....

That's why the cockroaches are the ones who are actually going to evolve to become God...his theory didn't state that it had to be HUMANS. ;)

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Trajan

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Tue Dec-20-05 11:19 PM
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3. Bertrand Russell ....

"If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause. If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the world as God, so that there cannot be any validity in that argument� The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our imagination."

-- Bertrand Russell, Why I am not a Christian

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Warpy

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Tue Dec-20-05 11:27 PM
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4. I announced I was an atheist at ten

Bertrand Russel's writings told me it was a perfectly OK thing to be when I was twelve.

That's the problem with all this god stuff. It all begs the question of who created the gods.

Of course, the answer is that we did. There have been millions of gods since the beginning of human history, each one all powerful in his own time, and men trembled before them. As they faded into nothingness, so will the gods of today, to be supplanted by newly created gods.

People who find such beliefs comforting are welcome to them, and there have been times I've envied them that comfort.

I just can't buy it.

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Cronus Protagonist

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 AM
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6. I prefer to keep my options open

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:38 AM by Cronus Protagonist

Just my preference.

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Wed Dec-21-05 02:31 AM
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10. I think Ralph Lauren was pretty smart...

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