Question I hope someone can answer on wiretaps and such

Ksec

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:19 AM
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Question I hope someone can answer on wiretaps and such

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:20 AM by Ksec

I heard some wingnut on CSpan this morning make the claim that the numbers found on a suspected terrorists cell phone cannot be used or called . She (Victoria Toensing) made the claim that they cant use them because its not enough that they are on a terrorists phone. They needed more evidence to issue warrants. Is this true or is she blowing smoke up asses like I suspect?

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 AM
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1. You can call whaterver phone number you want to call.

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leftstreet

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 AM
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2. If her mouth is open, she is lying

Don't know anything about the technicalities, but Toensing is a RW whore.

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northzax

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:24 AM
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3. depends on how they get the phone, don't it?

if the phone is obtained constitutionally, then they are fair game. If your drug dealer, for instance, has your number on his cell phone, and he gets busted, expect a visit.

If the 'suspected terrorist' is simply vanished, without legal procedures being followed, or if his phone is stolen by the feds, then the numbers cannot be used in court.

it's called the fourth amendment.

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Liberal In Texas

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:32 AM
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4. I just watched that. She's full of hot air. Bamford was pretty good in

explaining what really is going on.

To me if you find a TERRORISTS phone, wouldn't that be probably cause? Or if you just find Joe Sixpack's phone and want to do a fishing expedition to see if he MIGHT be a terrorist, or listen in to whatever else might interest them, they might have trouble with that.

Besides, this hypothetical of hers is a straw man. FOREIGN surveillance is pretty wide open, they don't have to get warrants. Bamford kept bringing that up and she just ignored it.

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