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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:50 AM
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Gonzales just refused to answer if domestic to domestic communications...
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 10:52 AM by NNN0LHI
...were spied on by the NSA. This guy is a criminal and he is the attorney general. Michael "Ming The Merciless" Chertoff is watching Alberto's back.

Don
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:51 AM
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1. where did this occur???
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:52 AM
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3. Just now live on CNN n/t
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:56 AM
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7. Thanks I'll watch for a replay, have the Senate on now
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:57 AM
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9. cspan2 had a stream as well (nt)
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:09 AM
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15. I had Csapn2 on and they
are covering the Senate live. Do you mean Cspan or cspan3?
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:53 AM
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18. Probably. Sorry 'bout that. (nt)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:52 AM
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2. May I have a clue, please, Sir?
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 10:53 AM by SpiralHawk
What? When? Where? Why? WTF?

Any of the above will serve to apease me.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:53 AM
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4. You know what that means -
the answer is yes. Of course they're listening in on domestic to domestic communications.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:54 AM
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5. Right. And remember that torture-apologist Gonzalez . . .
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 10:55 AM by MrModerate
Was regarded as "too moderate" to be considered for the SCOTUS.

How wacked-out are these people?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:54 AM
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6. The guy is a friggin' lap dog, just sayin' what his boss wants to hear.
He's a politico HO, nothing more. He certainly does NOT deserve the title of attorney, let alone attorney general, when he willingly re-writes/violates U.S. laws and advocates a form of dictatorship and human rights abuses.
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hart Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:56 AM
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8. We need to be logical
If he said Yes; that would be an indicator that he knew they were crossing the line; if he said NO and then found out a computer with an ISP server in the US had been spied on; he would b accused of lying.

It is logical he would not answer the question.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:59 AM
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10. Otherwise, he'd be admitting a crime had been committed.
Sure, it's logical for a criminal to do that. :eyes:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:00 AM
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11. Except for Michael Moore, Scott Ritter, Cindy Sheehan, Howard Dean &
...and a few dozen more, they barely crossed the line, right?
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:00 AM
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13. Yes, it is also logical that he would not answer the question if the
answer was yes. And in fact, we already know it is yes, because of reports that environmental groups and PETA were spied on.

Nice try, though.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:25 AM
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16. They just busted a bunch of people from that environmental terrorism group
Earth Liberation Front maybe?

I wonder if they got them via information from this illegal NSA domestic spying program?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:01 AM
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14. What else is logical, Hart?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:00 AM
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12. Well there goes their main argument straight into the toilet. And their
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 11:00 AM by yellowcanine
main argument was pretty shaky to start with. Put a fork in Bush on this issue. Look for him to "work out something" with the Senate Republicans to weasel out of the corner he is in.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:32 AM
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17. Here is a factual (and long) paper prepared for the Electronic Privacy
Information Center (EPIC) by Duncan Campbell in June of 2000. At that time EPIC disregarded the possibility of domestic surveillance. This was published by Cryptome on 12-19=2005.

The title of the paper is "Signals intelligence and human rights: the ECHELON report" and it is valuable to anyone that wants to understand some of the background to the current domestic spying scandal of the administration of George W. Bush.

http://cryptome.org/sigint-hr-dc.htm
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:11 PM
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19. Rice said Gonzales was "the highest legal authority in the country"


saw this at buzzflash but the link wouldn't work for me. so all I had was the above heading.

so, Gonzales is above the Supremes?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:51 AM
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20. kick
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 11:57 AM
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21. Well at least Gonzales will never be on the supreme court
after this--he couldn't get confirmed.
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