C-SPAN2 LIVE THREAD - SENATE WEDNESDAY NOON

Anyone else watching? I need company as I watch my country collapse...

Link: <http://www.cspan.org/watch/>

Ted Stevens, sick SOB now on deck...

The Senate is on C-SPAN2

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a loss for words, and I am never for a loss of words.

I'm trying not to puke, it'll be harder soon, Frist is up next :puke:

then Reid

then the vote on cloture :scared:

edit - oopps Reid, then Frist?

for christmas!! WTF people are living in TENTS you ASSHOLE

the homes of *ordinary* people; *ordinary* people - destroyed...

We'll be here until we settle this problem. I've been in my chair Christmas Eve before... I've already cancelled by Christmas trip...

Callers get the answering machine

Glad to see...

...our environment...
...hurricane victims...
...our troops...
...Senate rules...
...low income people trying to keep warm...
...our Constitution...

...are being used as political pawns for oil companies...

The majority is threatening the break the rules again - but now they are threatening the US military - held hostage by this issue --> Arctric Drilling. Senator Stevens is breaking the rules - #28.

She's between a rock and a hardplace with the 29 million in block grants for LA also in this bill.

If she votes for cloture I can understand why.

It's exactly what they are doing. She shouldn't and she should insist it's removed.

Stevens to make ANWR a significant source of 'relief' for the Gulf Coast - that is *bullshit* -

Profits from Rape of ANWR --> Hurricane Survivor Relief
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- FRIST's bill that says that companies cannot be held liable for what happens to people who take vaccines...? Is that right?

:bounce:

Just wanted to point out that he is right about one thing: America is watching.

"We have to drill in ANWR for national security."

:puke:

What? Does he think we've got terrorists hiding under the ice? :crazy:

i'm calling to bitch!

Did you hear Clinton's vote?

I am just about out of :cry:

What are the rules?
They mean nothing since if they allow the ANWAR amendment to stay attached to the bill as it was attached after the bill left committee. Violation of Senate Rule 28.

Absolutely hated the 50/50 vote for the Budget Bill, then tie broken by The Evil One. Fuck the poor anyway....it's their fault for being poor...offset tax cuts to the rich on the backs of the poor working people.

Now, they want to change the Senate rule to allow them to stick Anwr drilling, energy subsidies to the poor, and hurricane relief in the Defense Bill....please realize that these provisions were stuck in the bill, above the bipartisan conferees signatures. (Vote to allow the Senate majority to do this one time, then we will change the rule back so it can't be done again.) But, many Dems have been making the point, that if allowed to break the rule this time, how many other times, on other issues will this happen? Let them get away with it now, and Katie Bar the Door! If the Senate votes to allow this rule breaking, then the permanent renewal of the Patriot Act can be snuck into any other bill in exactly the same way, shutting off the much-needed debate. Byrd gave an impassioned speech about the breaking of Senate rules. Kerry called them on what they are trying to do, namely blackmail Senators into voting for the rule change, by saying they will have voted against our troops. Fascinating watching....do I need to get a life?

This is truly the Culture of Corruption in Action!

this budget vote against the poor and middle class.

at least I think

or can Reid shut the place down by stalling procedures or by someone filibustering?

edit-can't spell, pissed off

The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.

Is that still the case?

Couldn't hear it.

Can you?

any of the votes on the online stream. I'm at work watching.

Any idea of how it's going?

what an unbelievable turkeybutt

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You are not alone! I can barely breath right now.

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didn't have the votes.

He says he opposes drilling but look which side he's voting with!

If I counted correctly.

I was trying to count on my fingers and multiplied incorrectly in my excitement. :)

course some votes are flipping now.... we'll have to see what the final total is

That means the chair calls each name, waits a few seconds and moves on. At the end, the yeas and neas are counted and those who are not represented in the first roll call are then called again.

This is a turning point in history. I hope our steps are swift and true.

These people raise my blood pressure. :grr:

Leiberman even said he would vote no.

I think we have it, but I'm still v. anxious :-(

As long as Reid has all his ducks in a row, we should be ok.

:crazy:

May have lost 2 out of 45. x(

If I've counted correctly

Please God, let this happen! How did my Senator Salazar vote?

He is very anti drilling.

Mrs. Clinton? Mrs. Clinton - NO

:P

:rofl:

I like your style!

:evilgrin:

Be nice.

I'm feeling ill

:crossed fingers:

It is such a disgrace that he votes for cloture to drill

I am embarassed to have him as my Senator

We have to sweat it out and wait for the gavel. :(

chaffe no

:cheer:

:toast:

are posting these votes before my stream even plays them! :-) Thanks!!!

nt

Holding strong so far.

Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please

Her hands are tied on this one.

she voted with this republican party. She could of insisted, she could bashed the shit out of this administration with what they did. For holding money for NO hostage with anwr.. She chose not to.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for her. I want to try but I'm finding it difficult

all around them this shit storm of power hungry fucks who care less about the American people and more about their wallets.

nt

Just wondering. Did Inouye vote yet?

:grr: SHAME, SHAME, SHAME ON THEM!

WOW

Man...this is tense stuff.

I'm peaking with one eye, and about to plug my ears. What's the count ...... arggggggggg. :crazy:

so I can keep track. this is driving me crazy

If you make one, please post it so I can print it out too. What a smart cookie you are!

let us know your count if ya do that. :)

...we lost Akaka, Inouye, Ben Nelson, and Landrieau but we picked up Chafee and DeWine. That makes 43.

done to change some votes

That shows that the cloture is NOT AGREED TO.

Create me a few legislators and place them in homes with no refrigerators

(don't knock the destressing value until you've tried it)

;)

We did!

And not wait for Alito

(Either that or he got my phone message and it -- and it alone -- force him to turn over a new leaf)

His vote is to secure the right to talk about it again on the floor.

Or something like that ;)

Before the vote was he not on the floor speaking for cloture?

What's up with THAT?

That means we've won it, right?:shrug:

Did the same thing over the Patriot Act cloture vote.

or what? Is it so history won't show him to be as corrupt as he is?

The motion to reconsider possibly shortcuts the rules limit on making a new cloture motion.

just WOW.

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You can only ask for reconsideration if you vote on the winning side!

By moving to reconsider, he can (absent it's tabling) resurrect the roll call at any time.

Only a person on the prevailing side of the vote can move for reconsideration. WHen it is obvious that your side will lose the leader will switch and vote with the prevailing side in order to move for reconsideration.

Without a motion to reconsider the issue is dead and cannot be revived.