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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:59 AM
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Leak probe not seen to end with Rove, lawyers say
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:37 PM by stop the bleeding
Leak probe not seen to end with Rove, lawyers say



Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is not expected to shut down his investigation into the leak of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson when he finishes his inquiry of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove's role in the leak, lawyers close to the probe said.

These sources indicated that if a grand jury returns an indictment against Rove it will include -- at the very least -- a charge that he made false statements to Justice Department and FBI investigators when he was first interviewed about his role in the case in October 2003.
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  • 12/21/2005 Leak probe not seen to end with Rove, lawyers say -- rawstory.com




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    mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:00 PM
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    1. I was going to ask
    about Fitz's investigation progress.
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    SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:02 PM
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    2. Hey, hey, what do your say, take those Indictments all the way...
    Clean up the Republican-BushCo-NeoCon culture of corruption.

    And restore truth, democracy, and high mindedness to America.
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    babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:04 PM
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    3. YESSS! nt
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    Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:07 PM
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    4. Rove is just high profile and the beginning of a long Fitzmas season.
    May it continue...

    :woohoo: Go Fitzy baby!
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    LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
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    5. I'm dreaming of an indict Fitzmas....
    Where's that old Fitzmas carol thread from last month?
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:37 PM
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    6. updated original with article now n/t
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    Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:38 PM
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    7. Well I could have told you that
    Of course Fitzie won't stop with Rove. There are more sources and more leaks to reveal. His standard M.O. is to build a case, get an indictment, rinse and repeat.Isn't he still indicting people in Chicago for one case? 60+ indictments? The man is just warming up and there is much crime to choose from. Every day is Fitzmas.
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:58 PM
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    8. might as well combine these threads ????? or lock this one??
    Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 01:38 PM by stop the bleeding
    thank you....
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    stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    9. delete - topic already started
    Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 01:37 PM by stop the bleeding
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    kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    10. FITZ LEAK PROBE WON'T END WITH ROVE LAWYER'S SAY (NIGER PROBE POSSIBLE)
    Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:43 PM by kpete
    Leak probe not seen to end with Rove, lawyers say
    Jason Leopold

    FITZ LEAK PROBE WON'T END WITH ROVE LAWYER'S SAY

    Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is not expected to shut down his investigation into the leak of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson when he finishes his inquiry of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove's role in the leak, lawyers close to the probe said.

    These sources indicated that if a grand jury returns an indictment against Rove it will include -- at the very least -- a charge that he made false statements to Justice Department and FBI investigators when he was first interviewed about his role in the case in October 2003.

    Individuals close to the probe say Fitzgerald is still investigating other unnamed White House officials. This part of the investigation, like that of Rove, is focusing on whether these officials committed perjury, obstruction of justice or lied to federal investigators during the early days of the investigation -- as opposed to violating an obscure law which makes it a crime to knowingly leak the name of an undercover CIA operative -- they say.

    The investigation is expected to shift back to top officials in the Office of the Vice President, the State Department and the National Security Council, and may even shed some light on the genesis of the Niger forgeries, lawyers close to the case say. The forged documents, cited in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, claimed Iraq sought yellowcake uranium from the African country. It may also reveal how key players in the White House decided to expose Plame's undercover status and top secret front company, Brewster Jennings.

    Separately, these people said, the FBI's renewed interest in probing the Niger forgeries grew out of Fitzgerald's probe.

    http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Leak_probe_not_seen_to_end_1221.html
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    FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    11. Oh wow
    So is he going after someone more official or what? I always thought that Fitzgerald was using Rove as a key to who really did it. He didn't have that type of access until after the last "election" this past year. He had to get someone else to get the information. Reporters couldn't have gotten it either so they had to get it from a high official in the White House. Fitzgerald could've indicted Rove a long time ago when he did Libby but he didn't.
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    msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    12. "do the innuendo, is the head dead yet" - don henley
    what lawyers close to the probe "said" this?

    who are "these people said".



    Msongs
    www.msongs.com/chinamart.htm
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    kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    13.  Is this new information? From Raw Story:
    Is this new information? From Raw Story:

    "One of those individuals may be an unnamed State Department official cited in a Sept. 9, 2003 Washington Post story. The official told the Post that six journalists were called and told about Plame Wilson's undercover status in an attempt to discredit her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a critic of the Bush administration's prewar Iraq intelligence who challenged the veracity of the uranium claim."

    They discuss this State Department official a couple times. Have we always known it was someone from State?
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/firedoglake/113517829833351727/
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    OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    14. I think this is gonna keep going and going and going and going
    We all know how much their is to all of this. I think Fitzy is not going to stop until he has every last player nailed down. I couldn't think of a better Prosecutor for this as can't wait to see Fitzmas after Fitzmas what presents we'll receive next!
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    Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    15. Eveready Battery
    It just keeps going and going....Great news
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    foreverdem Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:35 PM
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    16. Fitz will take this all the way up to Cheney
    I'm looking forward to a long Fitzmas season!
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    Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    17. Raw Story has NOT BEEN WRONG YET
    I am THRILLED to read this. Hey, Hadley! Merry Christmas!
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    Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    18. Does he have authority to bring charges based upon Bush's confession,...
    ,...to spying on Americans? I wish he did though I doubt he does. ;(
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    DKStreet Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
    Response to Reply #10
    19. I'm fashioning a new holiday hat
    out of tin foil tinsel!
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    SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    20. You might need a new "Fitzter Bonnet"
    Perhaps he can somehow tie in the Sibel Edmonds information.. It's all connected at the roots..just like the aspens:)
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    kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    21. Would you do us all a favor and indicate that your "information"
    comes from rawstory in your subject line?
    People include "graphic" or "warning dialup users" as a courtesy to others, when they are posting disturbing or obscene images or simply large images.

    One would think the unlabelled news parodies of rawstory would merit a similar treatment. As a courtesy. Please.
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    mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    22. Democracy still has a heartbeat
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    Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:36 PM
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    23. You go Fitz!
    FITZMAS JUST AIN'T FITZMAS, WITHOUT THE ONE YOU LUUUUVVVVV!

    :-)

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    lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:37 PM
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    24. Oh Yeah baby!
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    robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:05 PM
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    25. Any guesses on the "unnamed State Department official"?
    "Mr. Fitzgerald has secured the cooperation of certain individuals who faced the possibility of being prosecuted," one attorney close to the case said. "That's all I'm going to say."

    One of those individuals may be an unnamed State Department official cited in a Sept. 9, 2003 Washington Post story. The official told the Post that six journalists were called and told about Plame Wilson's undercover status in an attempt to discredit her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a critic of the Bush administration's prewar Iraq intelligence who challenged the veracity of the uranium claim. Wilson debunked the administration's claims after being sent to Niger a year earlier to investigate the allegations.

    The unnamed State Department official cited in the Post story appears to have intimate knowledge of the campaign to discredit Wilson. He also appears to have been sympathetic to the former ambassador.

    The Associated Press also quoted an unnamed retired State Department official who told
    them of a Department memo describing Plame's alleged role in sending her husband to Africa and disputed the legitimacy of administration claims that Iraq sought to acquire uranium.


    I would say the most likely candidates are Powell or Armitage. Then again, I'm not sure if either faced the possibility of being prosecuted. Any other people come to mind?
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    robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:26 PM
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    26. Another State Department official came to mind.
    Carl Ford. Not sure if he would have faced prosecution, though if I recall, he may have been responsible for having the Grossman memo brought on board Air Force One in July 2003.

    I think he would definitely have been sympathetic to the Wilsons after reading what he has to say about Bolton:

    Testimony last Tuesday by former State Department intelligence chief Carl W. Ford Jr. had left several of them shaken after he described Bolton as a "serial abuser" who picked on junior officers who dared to challenge him. Chafee had said that Ford's testimony was strong but that it did not show a pattern.

    snip

    Ford, who ran the State Department's intelligence bureau before Fingar, also said that Bolton had sought the removal of Christian Westermann, the bureau analyst who had also challenged the ambiguous intelligence Bolton wanted to make public about Cuba.

    When Westermann shared his dissenting view about the intelligence, he was ordered to Bolton's office and berated, Ford and Westermann said. Ford and Silver said Bolton wanted Westermann removed from his job at the intelligence bureau. Bolton denied that he tried to have anyone fired but said that the national intelligence officer and Westermann had acted inappropriately.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61304-2005Apr17.html
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    greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:44 PM
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    27. Damn, I've got to get some air;
    Too many ups and downs lately. Breathe deeply and focus... Impeachment lies close, Impeachment, HMMMMMmmm! Impeachment!:woohoo:
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