THIS IS IT! CLOTURE VOTE NOW! PLEASE REPORT NAYS AND AYES HERE!

Hawkeye-X

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:09 PM
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THIS IS IT! CLOTURE VOTE NOW! PLEASE REPORT NAYS AND AYES HERE!

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:10 PM by HawkeyeX

1-800-426-8073 - call your senators to filibuster!

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:21 PM
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1. Okay, I'm lost. Which side is trying to invoke Cloture?

Right now it is 34 yea, 30 no. I'm guessing we need 60 noes?

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SaveElmer

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 PM
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2. We need 41 to keep the filibuster going

Our side is probably the nay side...

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alcibiades_mystery

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
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6. no, they just need to NOT get 60

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alcibiades_mystery

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
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3. wrong...they need 60 ayes

n/t

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Norquist Nemesis

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
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7. GOP trying to invoke cloture; need 60 to do it

41 nays and cloture is not invoked. We want nays.

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merh

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
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4. See this link

The survivors and the troops should not be held hostage -- the greed of the corporations and the politicians should not come into play.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5656860

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stop the bleeding

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
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5. I have been listening at work and have heard a lot of "yes"

Clinton just voted NO

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stop the bleeding

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
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11. Feinstein and Obama - No's

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
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14. 53 yea, 38 no n/t

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Immad2

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:24 PM
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8. Landrieu and Nelson of Nebraska voted aye

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Plausible

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
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15. that's not good n/t

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Immad2

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
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20. No - but Chaffee just voted no

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Immad2

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
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24. Dewine - no, Akaka - aye

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seshers

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
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9. Current count for cube rats?

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derby378

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
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10. Obama - NO, Hutchison - AYE

n/t

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RebelOne

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
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12. Too many ayes. Is anyone keeping count?

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Plausible

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
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13. obama no n/t

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
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17. 54 yea, 40 no

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stop the bleeding

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
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21. No Chaffee, Spector Yes, Cole No

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derby378

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
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16. Clarification

This is for the FY 2006 Defense Appropriations Bill.

There is a rider attached that will allow for oil drilling in ANWR.

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stop the bleeding

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:28 PM
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18. No - Biden and Lautenburg - McCain - Yes - fucker

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
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19. my count now has it at 55 yea, 42 nay - doesn't that shut it down?

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stop the bleeding

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
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I can not find a list - but if that count is right then yes we did it.

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Walt Starr

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
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22. Yes, it is effectively filibustered.

But there were threats of the nuclear option being invoked on this one.

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Just Me

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:32 PM
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27. I am so tired of this shit! I hope you're right, Walt. n/t

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Walt Starr

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:33 PM
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30. 41 votes is all that is needed to filibuster

IF the 42 count is correct, it's filibustered.

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:31 PM
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26. DeWine apparently has changed his vote but I'm not sure who

else has changed. My count now has it at 59 to 43 which is, of course, messed up. Don't know who to move from one column to the next. Anyone got a better count?

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ohtransplant

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
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23. DeWine of Ohio - No n/t

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WilliamPitt

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
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25. WHAT'S THE COUNT?

I have 40 nays.

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:33 PM
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29. Looks like a lot of arm twisting going on. Half the repugs will

spend the holidays with their arms in a cast.

Seems like some of the people are going back and changing their votes so I have lost count. I did have 43 nays but now I just don't know.

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Armstead

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:32 PM
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28. Voinovitch Aye

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:35 PM
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31. Are they holding the vote open? Seems like time should have expired. n/t

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MallRat

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
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36. GOP Leadership can do anything they want on this.

A couple years ago, the House kept the Medicare "reform" bill vote open for over 2 hours, to give DeLay and Hastert enough time to twist enough arms to get the win.

If they have no regard for statutes and laws, what kind of respect do you think they have for something piddling like parliamentary procedure?

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seshers

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 PM
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32. Cube rat needs the vote count

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in_cog_ni_to

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 PM
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33. I can't take this!!!! What the hell is the count???

Is the voting finished?

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:39 PM
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35. Frist just changed his vote to NO - who hoo! Got his tail back between

his legs. Happy Holidays!

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ohio_liberal

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
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39. WTF?

Why would change his vote to no?

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OmmmSweetOmmm

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
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40. Just heard!!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!

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tridim

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:39 PM
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34. Frist NO.. Filibuster successful!

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WilliamPitt

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
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38. Why did Frist vote no?

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Walt Starr

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
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41. By voting on the minority side he keeps the debate open

otherwise, those who vote not to close debate can simply allow the matter to be dropped for now.

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MallRat

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
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46. So by voting NO, Frist keeps the bill from being tabled altogether? n/t

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Walt Starr

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Wed Dec-21-05 01:40 PM
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56. Yup, somebody who votes no has to move to reconsider n/t

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More Than A Feeling

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
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43. Procedural

Only someone voting with the winners can bring up the measure again. As just happened.

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liberalnurse

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:43 PM
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48. That makes a lot of sense.

thank you.

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liberalnurse

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
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45. He must of cut a deal.....

Thats the only reason....He knew he didn't have enough votes....something is up....look for the sneak attack next.....

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seafan

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
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42. Yes, I think we successfully filibustered this. n/t

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Immad2

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
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37. Frist just voted - NO!!

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Immad2

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
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47. YES!! Filibuster successful!

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Just Me

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
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49. Well, I'll be damned!!! I'm in shock!!!

:wow:

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Democrat 4 Ever

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
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51. Frist has entered a motion for reconsideration. Roll call. Guess

he is now using intimidation. Right now Frist and his flunkies are going to every single repug that voted no and telling them that they will not get any money from the RNC for re-election, that every dirty trick in the book will be used against them, and they are dead to the party so get back in line or we will steamroll right over your ass. This now has the question that millions of people are asking - "Are there any honest and just politicians left in the Republican Party.

Will anyone really change their vote in this process?

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ohtransplant

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Wed Dec-21-05 01:02 PM
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55. DeWine could change. He's up for reelection in 06

and could crumble.

That said, they only get to 59 if all three Rs (who voted "No") flip.

Could there be Dems out there considering a switch?

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Plausible

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
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44. 56 yay 44 no

recount called for

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More Than A Feeling

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
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50. Did Frist just immediately move to reconsider?

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM by Heaven and Earth

Is he planning to hold the Senate hostage to get the extra five votes?

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chiffon

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:45 PM
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52. 55 ayes 44 nays

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:47 PM by chiffon

woohoo!

:woohoo:

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chiffon

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:46 PM
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53. 56 ayes 44 nays!! Alrighty now!

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:48 PM by chiffon

woohoo!

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WhiteTara

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Wed Dec-21-05 12:51 PM
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54. final vote 56-44 against the bill and cloture

okay...now we're on a roll.

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