I used to say Merry Christmas...but not anymore!

Before O'Reilly and the other right-wing idiots started screeching about this so-called 'War On Christmas,' I used to tell people Merry Christmas, because, whatever, I didn't think it was a big deal. But now that they've turned it into an ATTACK, a snide anti-liberal remark, I now just tell people to have a Happy Holiday...even people I know celebrate Christmas.

Before they made up this "War On Christmas" nobody gave a shit!

The other side to that is that it sort of concedes the point to them.

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how the fuck can the most one dimensional people co-opt so much of the culture?

whether you say merry xmas or not is now a "conservative compliance" litmus test.

The other day when I was grocery shopping, I heard two people say it in a very snide way. One woman said it to a bell ringer after he said "Happy Holidays". She said, "No..Merry Christmas". I found that I was irritated which was never the case before.

Are you acutually in the city, how goes it there with the strike and how are people's attitudes? I'm on the north west coast and all we got is friggin rain.

They just want to get to work and want it to be over with.

Hang in there.

And haven't stopped.

My family has even added the "feats of strength" and "airing of greviences" to our Christmas dinner.

(Yes, my family has a great sense of humor...we're all Dems)

there is no way that the birth of christ can be more compelling that drunken sodomy.

and i'm no biblical scholar, but there is the one story with the invocation: "thus saith the lord, thou shalt not be as the pagan and cut the tree in the forest, with the axe, as they do, and they bedeck it with silver and gold."

this is in the bible somewhere (i wish i was still up on my scripture) but it was written and refers to a time at least 700 years before the birth of god jr.

if these people were good calvinists, they would repudiate xmas like their ancestors did.

in the Old Testament.

I'm no Bible scholar - I saw that posted on DU last week.

Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. (10:2)

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. (10:3)

They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. (10:4)

I wonder if O'Reilly will demand now that stores remove their Christmas trees? (Then again, he'd have to not be a hypocrite...)

this was written before the time of christ.

and you gotta have "CHRIST" to have a "CHRIST"mas tree.

But the act is still the same.

Not that I agree with this particular scripture, but the Fundies are fond of quoting the Old Testament and claiming that the Bible should be interpreted LITERALLY...

go figure



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the paraphrase from alcohol soaked mind wasn't all that bad now that i look at it.

i guess i'm not as dain bramaged as i'd like to think i am . . .

Actually, your memory was excellent. I wasn't even aware of this scripture.

How many political cranks do you run into on a daily basis? I'm in Georgia, and I've yet to meet a real person who has said, "Merry Christmas" in any way other than a sincere holiday greeting.

Kill your TV and Internet and you'd never even know about this crap.

My son is visiting for the holidays after 16 months in Japan. He knew nothing about the "War on Christmas," even though he has internet access at his Marine base. When we were leaving airport parking, he said, "Happy Holidays" to the clerk in the booth and she responded, "Why, thank you very much! And Merry Christmas to you!" There was no message in either of their greetings other than to share good will. He meant no offense, she took none, and she meant no offense in her reply (how could she know we are atheists?)

But I have had people repeat O'Lielly's talking points to me -- including some of the lies that he's been called on. So this "war" is out there somewhere.

I have to admit I do it to grate on the nerves of any self-righteous pseudo "Christians" who may be within earshot. :evilgrin:

When I hear "Merry Christmas" now, it has a very jarring effect on me. I never really paid much attention before, it was always kind of like "Have a nice day" and didn't actually mean anything, it was just a social nicety type of greeting. But "Merry Christmas" grates on my nerves now, because of the right wing politicization of Christmas.

Thanks, you buncha Scrooges and Grinches.

a sneer, and flecked spittle forming in the corners of their lips.

Yeah, cuz you can tell what they really want to say is, "Merry Christmas, you commie pinko traitor heathen Murika-hatin' POS."

Merry Christmas. I'll still say it, but, man.
Hey O'Reilly---YOU ruined Christmas. Hope you're proud of yourself.

before, i used the terms interchangeably but no more. i add happy festivus, happy solstice, too and laugh!

I never hesitated to say Merry Christmas in years past, but this year when someone says Merry Christmas to me, I am extremely conscious and feel uncomfortable saying it back. This is because I wonder if I'm being tested, if the person saying it really means it or just wants to be "anti- liberal" (I guess they don't realize that an awful lot of liberals celebrate Christmas too- We are just more accepting of those who don't), or what.

The person below who thanked O'Reilly for ruining Christmas was right- For many, he did. I hope the smug jerk is happy with himself.

Doesn't piss me off one way or another. (Please note: I'm referring only to fellow citizens I encounter as I go about my day. Bill and John and those TV goofballs--well let me take a moment to wish them a very special Happy Fucking Holiday.)

Anyway, as I was saying--if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas, I smile and say, "you too, thank you." If it's "Happy Holidays," "Happy New Year," "Happy Hanukkah," "Happy Winter Solstice"--same response. Why? Because this war on joy is totally insane and I refuse to take part in it in any way. If someone wants to wish me a happy anything, fine. It doesn't bother me one way or the other.

I say happy holidays, like most people, when I don't know what someone celebrates. When I do, I say either happy holidays or happy _________(whatever the appropriate holiday for that person is.)

They can use Merry Christmas to "attack" me all they want. They'll just look like the idiots they are. ("They" again being Bill & John, Rush & Sean, and anybody who seriously thinks a snide "merry Christmas" is gonna have me shakin' in my boots.)

I've ragged on this guy for being a pink-tutu dem, but Bill Ship was utterly on the money with today's editorial:

http://gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=36&url_article_id=9919&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2

I especially liked how he didn't dignify John "Five in the Noggin" Gibson by mentioning his name.



Gotta give you an Attaboy for that one, Bill.

Pisses them ALL off.

what I say.

and a Happy New Year.

like i am going to allow oreilly to tell me what i have to say, to be a "good" christian, as he fucks on his wife. i think not

and I will continue to do so regardless of this ridiculous war of words. I'm just not gonna play. This is so yesterday. Next subject...

He gets a lot of wierd looks, but is enjoying it! I say it in French, or say Happy Festive!!We are having fun with it.