Lieberman: "It took a lot of guts for a lot of people to stand up"

...or maybe the "ban flag burning" bill next July?

I watched them at the post-vote media conference. Kerry needed his vote and tickled old Snaggle-puss under his chin......Well, it worked.

the drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.

But you wouldn't know anything about principles, now would you.
That would require you to discard your ideology, which we'll likely not see happening any time soon.

I may not agree with everything but he is a man of principle.

He is a "man" of principle???? :scared: Lieberman wants attention...and will sell his soul to get it.

I agree that Joe has a lot of good votes under his belt but to support the neocon policy is beyond the pale for many of us and that doesn't make us bad Dems compared to him being a "great" Dem.

Joe did good here, he gets a cookie. On Iraq and the huge world changing quagmire of shit that the illegal invasion and occupation is he fails miserably and it will take a whole helluva lot more good votes to make him a great Dem in many of our eyes.

comparison of Sen. Liebermans' record
Now don't get me wrong. I am no friend of the DLC. Mr. Benchley and Mr. Wyldwolf will vouch for me on that. Nor am I a fan of Joe Lieberman. I particularly resent some of Sen. Lieberman's recent absurd comments about the War in Iraq and Democrats who oppose Bush's war policy. I also have deep philosophic conflicts with Sen. Lieberman especially on foreign policy, military spending, corporate power and issues of trade.

Nonetheless, I think his voting record reasonably qualifies him as a Democrat.

This is a comparison of interest group ratings. I compared Sen. Lieberman with Sen McCain who is highly regarded as a "moderate" Republican and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine who is regarded by many as a "liberal" pro-choice Republican and probably the most liberal Republican in the Senate.

This is courtesy of project vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/index.htm
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 20 percent in 2004.

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2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 83 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 22 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 56 percent in 2003-2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 75 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 35 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 45 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 33 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 50 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 92 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 9 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 18 percent in 2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Education Association 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Education Association 35 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the National Education Association 55 percent in 2003-2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 25 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.
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2001-2002 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 94 percent in 2001-2002.(for some reason 2003-2004 was not available for Sen Lieberman)

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 15 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 42 percent in 2003-2004
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2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 95 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 14 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 32 percent in 2003-2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 50 percent in 2004

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 40 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Family Research Council 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Family Research Council 67 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Family Research Council 17 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 66 percent in 2004
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2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 0 percent in 2004

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 72 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Collins supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 68 percent in 2004.

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Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders for U . S. Senate 2006--

Is he telling us that a Senator in the US cannot vote for the right thing for the people he represents without being afraid to do so? That is a VERY revealing statement!!

So, if this is the case, why have Senators not gone to the people to tell them that they are afraid of the thugs who are in power and therefore have voted to protect themselves rather than the interests of the people who elected them over the past few years? It sounds like that's what he's saying. After all, this was a no-brainer, so why would it take guts to simply say no to the criminals who would try to hide what they're doing from the American people?

Show some real guts and tell us what is that you are afraid of, Joe!

:) :bounce: :woohoo:

Kudos to all senators, including the Republican ones, who voted against it.

Who are the four asinine Dems who voted for it? They need to be taken to the woodshed...