MSNBC poll Do you think that disclosing intelligence

Pam-Moby

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:40 PM
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MSNBC poll Do you think that disclosing intelligence

programs is aiding the enemy?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/#survey

Do you think that disclosing intelligence programs is aiding the enemy? * 7965 responses

Yes
40%
No
60%

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ayeshahaqqiqa

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:40 PM
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1. done

still 40/60.

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NoAmericanTaliban

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM
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2. Done - yes 40% - no 60% 8079 responses

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SoCalDem

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM
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3. It's going to end up 65-35 or thereabouts

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM by SoCalDem

The same 30-35% of contrarians who always "vote" against their own best interests will weigh in, and the other 65-70% of normal people will weigh in.. It's been this way since the clinton impeachment.. It's the SAME people..

They are a LOUD minority and somehow have convinced the media that what they have to say, somehow is a MAJORITY opinion..:shrug:

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JuniperLea

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM
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4. Careful now...

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 03:44 PM by Juniperx

Outing Plame was way dangerous...

Edited to say... Outing more Bush lies is only dangerous to Bush. Nothing he has done has been in our best interest anyway so any secrets he keeps are lethal to world peace.

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Canuckistanian

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:45 PM
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10. Plame was not "an intelligence program"

Exposing the existence of program and outing a designated secret operative are 2 different things.

A direct example would be actually naming the subjects of an investigation program.

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JuniperLea

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:49 PM
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18. I beg to differ

Outing Plame as a secret CIA agent outed every deal she was working on in the same fell swoop, and told every contact that didn't know she was CIA that she was an agent. That put every deal she was involved with on the front page to many who should not know. We may never know how deeply this hurt us. When she was named, so were her deals.

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Canuckistanian

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:36 PM
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24. Yes, that's my point

Maybe I wasn't clear.

I just meant to say that exposing a program that spies on American citizens is far less damaging than the Plame affair was.

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JuniperLea

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Wed Dec-21-05 05:37 PM
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26. But that isn't how the poll question was worded

It just said "intelligence"... that's a big bunch of different things... spying on Americans and outing intelligence operatives could fall under the same deal... pretty broad.

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Canuckistanian

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:17 PM
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27. Ah yes, I see your point n/t

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Canuckistanian

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM
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5. done 60/40 still

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democrat_patriot

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:43 PM
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6. Does anyone think the "the enemy" doesn't know we use

these tactics??

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cry baby

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:43 PM
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7. Well, I think disclosing a covert CIA agent is aiding the enemy...

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 03:43 PM by cry baby

which is what this admin did. The operative word missing here is "ILLEGAL".

I can't vote because I'd have to say yes. If the word illegal was there, I would say no.

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Metta

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:44 PM
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8. Thanks. If we didn't have enemies, we wouldn't be doing any of this.

:thumbsup:

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jobycom

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:44 PM
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9. Nice loading of a question, MSNBC.

I think that disclosing Valerie Plame's program to the media by people with top security clearance in an attempt to sabotage a critical surveillance operation aides the enemy, and therefore Bush should be impeached and imprisoned. But I don't believe that a news source who reports that the president of the US is flagrantly and inexplicably breaking the law and violating the spirit of the Constitution is aiding the enemy. In fact, I think it is revealing who the enemy really is.

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aquart

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:46 PM
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12. seriously sneaky wording. AVOID THIS POLL.

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oasis

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:46 PM
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11. Wiretapping the enemy. Who'da thunk it?

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Rainscents

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:47 PM
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13. Done!

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Tierra_y_Libertad

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:47 PM
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14. Disclosing "intelligence programs" aids humanity.

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me b zola

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:47 PM
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15. NO=60%

Do you think that disclosing intelligence programs is aiding the enemy? * 8252 responses

Yes..........40%

No...........60%

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Tommy_J

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:47 PM
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16. done

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PatrioticOhioLiberal

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:47 PM
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17. The wording

as usual, stinks!

It's not just "intelligence programs" MSNBC twits...it's one ILLEGAL intelligence program!

:grr:

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AValdoux

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Wed Dec-21-05 03:50 PM
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19. The question is flawed

It should read "disclosing illegal intelligence programs"

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stillcool

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:09 PM
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20. I didn't vote, but sent this email...

I believe that disclosing the name of a CIA agent, to the media is illegal. And I also believe that the ever-growing government scandals, featuring a plethora of people who repeatedly break the law, and have zero regard for our constitution, are a grave threat to our national security. I also believe that any news program, whose soul intent is to provide propaganda, is a serious threat to our national security.

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devinsgram

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:20 PM
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21. Done

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BuyingThyme

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:23 PM
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22. Who's fault is it? Done Y-40 N-60 Total-9043

Bush's!!

All Bush's fault.

Put him in prison!

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Vidar

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:32 PM
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23. done 60% no

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dusmcj

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Wed Dec-21-05 04:37 PM
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25. I hear oinking and squeaking

as the usual suspect pigs attempt to issue-shift. Yesterday, do you think domestic spying is illegal. Today, do you think it's illegal to reveal domestic spying. We expected this sort of thing, let's keep the focus where it needs to be.

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Scout1071

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:23 PM
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28. What a dumbass question. I definitely won't vote on that one. n/t

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