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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:44 PM
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"2006 will offer up Nixon-era nastiness and a chorus of calls to impeach"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10561966/

Spying, the Constitution — and the ‘I-word’
2006 will offer up Nixon-era nastiness and a chorus of calls to impeach Bush

By Howard Fineman

WASHINGTON - In the first weeks and months after 9/11, I am told by a very good source, there was a lot of wishing out loud in the White House Situation Room about expanding the National Security Agency’s ability to instantly monitor phone calls and e-mails between American callers and possible terror suspects abroad. “We talked a lot about how useful that would be,” said this source, who was “in the room” in the critical period after the attacks.

Well, as the world now knows, the NSA — at the prompting of Vice President Cheney and on official (secret) orders from President Bush — was doing just that. And yet, as I understand it, many of the people in the White House’s own Situation Room — including leaders of the national security adviser’s top staff and officials of the FBI — had no idea that it was happening.

As best I can tell — and this really isn’t my beat — the only people who knew about the NSA’s new (and now so controversial) warrant-less eavesdropping program early on were Bush, Cheney, NSA chief Michael Hayden, his top deputies, top leaders of the CIA, and lawyers at the Justice Department and the White House counsel’s office hurriedly called in to sprinkle holy water on it.

Which presents the disturbing image of the White House as a series of nesting dolls, with Cheney-Bush at the tiny secret center, sifting information that most of the rest of the people around them didn’t even know existed. And that image, in turn, will dominate and define the year 2006 — and, I predict, make it the angriest, most divisive season of political theater since the days of Richard Nixon.


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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:45 PM
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1. I can only say one thing . . .
Let's all join the chorus . . .

Feel like singing some "Holiday" carols?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:46 PM
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I'll say this...Treasons Greetings nm
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:46 PM
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2. The subtext here equals:
nothing to see here, just a bunch of partisan back-biting.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:50 PM
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4. I don't think so.
Comparing it to Nixon is serious stuff. The VP was forced to resign, Nixon forced to resign, jail sentences - I don't think he's saying "nothing to see here."
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:57 PM
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7. maybe he isn't, but he's still very careful to give both sides of the issu
he may be comparing Bush to Nixon, but he's still giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:01 PM
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9. it's Fineman, so I take it with a grain of salt.... but 2006 is going to
start with a bang.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:10 PM
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14. yes, but........
.....Fineman usually does that with many issues not just this one.

And the fact that Fineman is saying it, I think lends more credibility to the argument.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:04 PM
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10. indeed
I have heard Nixon mentioned so much in the last few days on NPR, CBS, MSRNC etc. I was thinking it was 1974 again! And I was 16. :)
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:09 PM
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13. I agree with Steph . . .
Fineman is saying this one has legs, but it's going to be ugly.

I think we knew that.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:47 PM
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3. dont forget karl rove.
they had numerous international and domestic political situations that they had to 'deal' with.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:52 PM
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5. And we must remember, Nixon still have 20% support at the bitter end
There will be dead-enders that will stick with W even if he is shown on TV during the Super Bowl halftime show screwing a goat.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:00 PM
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8. Hey, I'd pay good money to see that.
No. Wait. I'd pay good money to see a goat screwing W.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:14 PM
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17. There's no way
There are so many right wing talking heads with their lips on his ass the goat wouldn't have a chance.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:10 PM
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15. Yah got something against bestiality?
Heh -- it keeps one warm at night when there's no one else around.

Ought to be consensual though. That's the hard part.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:13 PM
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16. That;'s a B-a-a-a-a-a-d joke
:evilgrin:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:14 PM
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18. I do try . . . n/t
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:25 PM
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19. My parents were part of that 20%
They loved Nixon till the day he died.

Still don't quite understand why....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:57 PM
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6. It's sure looking like 2006 is going to be a pivotal year
in American history. I'm glad we're the good guys and on the side of truth because history won't be kind to the other side.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:06 PM
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11. As it should be.
If you aren't outraged you aren't paying attention.

It's time that we get our country off this political prozac where the only thing worth getting upset over is a fucking blowjob in the white house.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:08 PM
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12. great article!!
I just read this a few minutes ago........
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