How the Local Radio Talkshow Wingnut Dismisses Shrub's Illegalities

First, I e-mailed him about the Nightline segment of 12-20, in which the words "crime" and "impeachment" were used and affirmed as being applicable. His response:

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Bush won’t be impeached and he wouldn’t be convicted if he were but his defense for the eavesdropping doesn’t wash. In order to really want to impeach and convict him you would have to believe the Bush-is trying-to-stage-a-coup line, which the American people, and me, do not.

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To which I replied: Haha. We all know that your Repukes' holding the numbers in Congress means the law will not be enforced. But it's funny how you have gotten your head wrapped around it, saying it won't happen but IF it DOES, he won't be CONVICTED. You've accepted that we have a ROGUE pResident on our hands ----and you LIKE it!!!!

But I really believe that the extreme poison in the political world goes back directly to NIXON. Now I sound like all of YOUR crew (wingnuts in general) always blaming CLINTON. But everything that has gone on ever since the NIXON resignation has been like the endless circle of tit-for-tat between the Israelis and the Arabs, the Irish and the English.

Wingnuts have NEVER ACCEPTED that NIXON was corrupt. They still believe he was martyred and scapegoated. It takes a special character to achieve redemption, and it ain't IN the character of any wingnut. So they have been engaged in their political eternal war---scorched earth, take-no-prisoners, impeach-CLINTON, swiftbot the next one and the next one.

Dan ABRAMS (12-21) is about to do a segment on the Repuke claims that CARTER and CLINTON did the same thing Shrub did, with the theme, "Is it really true?" Too bad I'm shoving off to (wherever). Oh, the short answer from ABRAMS's guest so far is NO, NOT true, NOT SINCE THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION, according to James BAMFORD, author "Body of Secrets". He said that the guy spinning the CARTER/CLINTON story to Steve KROFT on 60 Minutes next Sunday is NOT CREDIBLE.



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No, you see, that’s where you are wrong (about me). I do not see Bush as a rogue President. You do. You see everything he does thru the prism of he’s-a-rogue-President-staging-a-slow-coup and I do not. We saw Saddam as someone who was hiding WMD because he HAD been hiding WMD, so he was doing it again, right?

And I and’t have a “crew.” I’m just me. Movement conservatives didn’t like Nixon because he wasn’t one of them. Merry Christmas anyway.

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To which I said THIS:

He was a rogue BEFORE Day One, from Day-One-minus-infinity.

Your paradigm of the Iraq Attack being because of distorted-viewing-of-Saddam (that he had HAD WMD BEFORE - yeah, like the '80s, provided BY Darth Rums) now vacates the whole PNAC scheme of things, which had been going on ever since Poppy wimped & left Saddam in place. You know, the supposedly IDEALISTIC part. So you've abandoned the PNAC talking points you had adopted for awhile, and abandoned the Stratfor talking points you had adopted for awhile that some-ANY-Arab-butt-needed-to-be-kicked, and have now gone to the everybody-thought-there-were-WMD-faulty-intelligence deal. Which was it, the WMD, the Arab-butt,or the PNAC? That's why many of us KNEW from before Day 1 that it was a phoney war, withOUT our having access to the intelligence, because the stories kept changing and were spoken unconvincingly. And I see your merry-Christmas and raise you THIS:

NGU.

NGU.

I feel molested all over. Shower time. Must get clean again!

Bush apologists' arguments inevitably consist of explaining why he ordered the illegal wiretaps, but the FISA regulations are pretty clear - no exceptions. He broke the law. Period.

Can you smell the impeachment?

You don't have to believe that Bush is trying to stage a coup to understand that warrantless spying against American citizens is an impeachable offense... or perhaps the host is acknoweldging that Bush has committed an impeachable offense but believes we should let it slide unless we think he's about to stage a coup? :crazy:

always deny, never admit is the first rule of the class. Second is to make the opposing party responsible, by saying it is their fault...

the dupe knows bush is bankrupt, but he hates america as it was when geeb (brother of john ellis bush or 'jeb') was installed despite a majority that opposed him- this is something people seem to forget: the contempt isn't for an abstract group on the margins, it was for clinton america, and clinton america was america!
nevermind arguing with punks like this, just gather the evidence of treason (which goofy supplies everytime he opens his mouth) and let him know that you're not alone (he is, by comparison; remember, clinton won handily 2 elections, despite pigmedia trying to oust him) bush has never won an election that anyone with ethics would believe....