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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:52 AM
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John Conyers: Latest Impeachment Results; My Nation Op-ed
http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000332.htm

Latest Impeachment Results; My Nation Op-ed

Its been three days since we went public with our report and censure/select committee-impeachment resolutions, and the results have been overwhelming. The Right is now clearly playing defense, with the same people who pleaded for Congress to impeach Clinton over an affair explaining that we should not consider impeachment of Bush for manipulating intelligence and violating the fourth amendment; for example this piece by Bush Defender Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post. But progressives have a stronger, clearer case and it is resonating with the American people; for example, these pieces in the Berkely Daily Planet. and my recent interview on Radio Pacifica. I am also happy to announced that The Nation is running an editorial I penned pulling all the pieces together.

Our petition has gathered some 19,000 names by mid-day today. Afterdowningstreet.org/censurebush.org is reporting that more than 17,000 emails have been generated to the Hill. I also just learned that a Dem. Candidate for Congress in OH-13, John Wolfe, has endorsed all of my resolutions.

A Motion for Censure
by JOHN CONYERS JR.



On December 20, 2005, I issued a 273-page report outlining the Bush Administration's panoply of misconduct associated in the run-up to and since the Iraq War.

In brief, I have found that there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice President and other high-ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration.

As further detailed in the report, there is at least a prima facie case that these actions by the President, Vice President and other members of the Bush Administration violate a number of federal laws, including:

Committing a fraud against the United States, for example, the President saying he has not made up his mind about invading Iraq, when all of the documentary evidence shows otherwise.

Making false statements to Congress, for example, the President saying he has learned Iraq is attempting to buy uranium from Niger, when he had been warned by the CIA not to say that.

The War Powers Resolution and misuse of government funds, for example, redeploying troops and initiating bombing raids before receiving Congressional authorization.

Federal laws and international treaties prohibiting torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment--for example, ordering detainees to be ghosted and removed--and tolerating and laying the legal ground work for torture and mistreatment

Federal laws concerning retaliations against witnesses and other individuals; for example, demoting Bunnatine Greenhouse from the Army Corps of Engineers because she exposed contracting abuse involving Halliburton.

Federal laws and regulations concerning leaking and other misuse of intelligence; for example, the President's failure to enforce the law requiring disciplining those who leak classified information, whether intentional or not.

While I found these charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable misconduct, because the Bush Administration and the Republican-controlled Congress have blocked the ability of members to obtain information directly from the Administration concerning these matters, more investigatory authority is needed before recommendations can be made regarding specific articles of impeachment. As a result, I have introduced legislation establishing a select committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war detailed in my report to the Committee on the Judiciary on possible impeachable offenses (House Resolution 635).

In addition, since the President, Vice President and others in the Bush Administration have failed to respond to myriad requests for information concerning these charges, or to otherwise account for explain a number of specific misstatements they have made in the run-up to war and other actions warrants, their misconduct, at minimum, warrants censure by the Congress, and I have introduced two resolutions doing that (House Resolutions 636 and 637).

While the scope of my report was largely limited to Iraq, I believe it holds lessons for our nation at a time of entrenched one-party rule and abuse of power in Washington. If the present Administration is willing to break the law in order to achieve its political objectives in Iraq, and Congress is unwilling to confront or challenge their hegemony, many of our cherished democratic principles are in jeopardy. This is true not only with respect to the Iraq War, but also other areas of foreign policy, privacy and civil liberties, and matters of economic and social justice. Indeed, as my report was being finalized, the nation was learning of another potential significant abuse of executive power by the President, ordering the National Security Agency to engage in domestic spying and wiretapping without obtaining court approval in apparent violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which may also rise to the level of not only crimes but "high crimes and misdemeanors."

It is tragic that our nation has invaded another sovereign nation because "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy," as stated in the Downing Street Minutes. It is equally tragic that the Bush Administration and the Republican Congress have been unwilling to examine these facts or take action to prevent this scenario from occurring again. Since they appear unwilling to act, it is incumbent on individual members of Congress as well as the American public to act to protect our constitutional form of government. I intend to continue doing exactly that.


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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:54 AM
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1. thank you John Conyers
:applause:
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itchyvet Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:41 AM
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3. Impeachment.
Whilst it would be "VERY NICE" to see the current inhabitants EJECTED from the Whitehouse, I fear such a fantasy, is just that, a fantasy.
The very same media, that has proven beyond a shadow of doubt, is on the side of said inhabitants, is now trying to straddle the fence and spouts word bytes about impeachment.
SERIOUSLY, people, is there just ONE person who really BELIEVES there's any chance of success in such a venture ??????
These people are responsabile for the MURDER OF HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, and the leader in the Whitehouse, claims "HE'D DO IT ALL AGAIN". Publicly World wide, demonstrating he has no fear whatever of repercussions for his actions.
Clearly, he has no fear whatever of his fellow U.S. citizens ever condeming him for his murderous acts upon innocent people.
IMHO, should any attempts ever get to a serious stage, (and I sincerely doubt they ever will) but say I'm wrong, and they do, does anyone here really believe, the Neocon crowd in the Whitehouse will allow such an event to it's conclusion ???????? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN .
My prediction is, "IF" it ever gets to a SERIOUS stage, there'll be another terrist attack somewhere within the mainland U.S.A. and this time, a far greater body count then last time.
The fear and panic this event will provoke, will immediately make all U.S. citizens forget all attempts of impeachment instantaneosly, and they'll beg their fearless leader to become their DICTATOR FOR LIFE.
I REALLY WISH I WAS KIDDIN ABOUT THIS.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:14 AM
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5. one thing-- well 2 really
so far the Bush regime has maintained a veneer of a real democracy. ANd as long as that remains-- they are all vunerable to impeachment and indictments.

point 2: Repubs in the house have to run for re-election. It may conme to the point where they go after the BUSH Regime-- just to keep their seat in the House, this way repubs maintain power in DC, rather than give it up. If they dont go after BUSH--- the DEMS may take their House seats and impeach & Convict.

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randomelement Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:45 AM
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8. Right there with you itchy
If numbnuts doesn't care about the Fourth Amendment, I doubt he seriously gives a whit about that 2 term limitation. He's burrowed in like a tick, and nothing short of a BIG ol pair of tweezers is going to get this parasite out of office. There's talk of March of '06 as the time where we go against Iran (their oil bourse is going to the Euro at that point) - I suspect there'll be a nasty retaliation for that move and that "Dicktator" for Life you've mentioned will become reality.

We all keep hoping this can be resolved through civilized means - I think this administration is systematically removing any and all methods of peaceful resistance. Once that point is reached, what's left? I'm not advocating violence, but it sure seems like these idiots in charge are trying to push us in that direction.

My two cents

And Welcome to DU!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:03 PM
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9. I've been thinking about that and
the one thing that I think will cause * problems is that we don't have enough troops to have a military lockdown. They are all in Iraq and there are too many that would rise up in other cities that it would be a civil war. In addition, I think that it may take at least some more months and we will have a majority in either the house or the senate by then and we will have enough strength to repel such a move. Someone noted that Katrina was *s chance to declare martial law and he squandered that opportunity.

The odds are getting more even and I think that maybe maybe maybe we will be able to not only impeach but will imprison the whole group. The truth is out there and there is no hiding from it.

BTW itchyvet, welcome to DU :hi: we're glad you're here.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:52 PM
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10. itchyvet
Welcome to DU :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 12:53 PM
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11. I don't care if it probably won't happen
I think talking about it sends a powerful message to dubya and his regime. I want them to know we are PISSED OFF. I want the attention to be away from Alito and directed AT dubya's spying and impeachment. So I don't care if he is actually impeached.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:15 AM
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2. If the Constitution survives this
period in our history, it will be because of true Patriots like Rep. Conyers. He has documented all of their crimes when the propaganda machine, commonly known as the MSM, totally supported the intended destruction of this democracy. That this was attempted under the guise of 'protecting' us should surprise no one. That is always the excuse used by totalitarian governments. Conyers is no fool, he recognizes the signs and has gathered the information to record the evidence.

He is so patient. Even when they ignored him, he persisted. But he's not alone anymore. Their little spying trick has so angered freedom-loving Americans they may finally have gone too far. I love that people I have tried to talk to about the TIA, eg, who told me in the past I was paranoid, now are having second thoughts. I haven't said 'I told you so' yet. But it's gratifying to see them slowly wake up and realize they may need to get involved in trying to save this democracy before it's too late.

Maybe a better form of protest than peace marches, might be for millions of REAL Americans to mail copies of the Declaration of Indepence, The Constitution and the Bill of Rights to the WH. Not in expectation of having these anti-democratic 'leaders' understanding what they mean, what they cost in the lives of those who created this nation, but to let them know that millions of Americans truly do value and love their country as envisioned by the Founding Fathers. Just because the President doesn't understand the Constituion doesn't mean we don't. He swore to protect and defend it. He has violated that oath as has every member of Congress who has failed to stop its intended destruction.

Thank you Rep. Conyers! :patriot:

www.pinsforpatriots.com

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:55 AM
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4. Thank you Mr. Conyers and thumbsup to your wife
I hope you can get this published in some major places maybe Wash Post and Times and New York Times and Post, LA Times, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Get this out there. People need to know that Democrats are being stymied from holding government accountable...Republicans consider themselves above the law or how did Delay put it "I am the Law" or something like that...
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:16 AM
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6. I think if more people knew of Conyers efforts & motion, he'd have more
than 17,000 signatures. I also think that because of the holidays that there aren't more additional reps that are supporting him verbally. My hunch is that most Reps home for the holidays are going to get an earfull about the spying issue and it isn't going away.

I also believe that everyone who cares about this country should sign it and everyone needs to publicly remind people of the very same people that called for Clinton's impeachment over a blowjob and to publish their statements and point out their unwillingness to do it over something far, far worse - lies to start an illegal war and spying on Americans in violation of the 4th amendment.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:18 AM
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7. John Conyers, a true Patriot
As for the sewer rats in Congress that are impeding the investigation.....your day will come.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:41 PM
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12. I am amused to no end
that the Republicans set such a low standard for impeachment, the measure by which Bush's crimes seem so much more atrocious. The American people have been manipulated to believe that lying about a blow job is an impeachable offense, and now, in the face of that, we have a President whose crimes are so evidently more grievous even to the least politically astute American.

The foolish and short-sighted actions Republicans have been taking all along will be their undoing.

I'm REALLY looking forward to the abolishment of the filibuster followed by the Dems controlling the Executive and Legislative Branches.

Hearing these short-sighted hypocritical fools whine will be such music.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 02:43 PM
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13. They really have painted themselves into a corner.
I even know the color they used. Ironic that it was blue.

Your post is very well stated. And what's interesting is that Conyers drew up that censure proposal before the NSA revelations.

As misfortunate as things are, it'll be quite a relief if we can get past this dark period in America's history.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:35 PM
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16. There will be a price to pay as I am fairly certain
that these despots have other forces in check that might do us harm. Having such a brutal administration is perhaps the only thing standing in the way of other countries ripping the 'Superpower' title from us.

China is one for sure.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 03:11 PM
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14. Merry Christmas paine!
K & R

Is Conyers really Santa?! :wow:

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 03:28 PM
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15. ho ho ho
Thanks, Viva.

Keep on!
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