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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:09 PM
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Hilarious defense of illegal wiretapping

Defeatocrats Desperate Dance

Aside from the fact that the warrantless wiretaps Bush used were against communications with foriegn
nationals outside the U.S., aside from the fact that it was done to protect the country, aside from the
fact that FISA warrants can take days, even weeks to get and there was no time in these particular
cases, there is no legitimate argument here for impeachment. Clinton’s impeachment was over him telling
lies to a grand jury and committing perjury.It was all about him. This is about a president doing
something for the national interest,which is his constitutional mandate. The president is supposed to
protect the people from all enemies foreign and domestic. He was doing what he thought was right, to
those ends. And legally, he had legal precedent.

The Democrats seem to be willing to do anything to try to discredit Republicans in order to pick up
seats next year.It’s so transparent and sickening, they really should lose a lot more seats, if there
is any justice in the world.

Even more sickening is the way the NY Times and their echo chamber in the media, spun this as “The
President iscommitting illegal sureveillance on Americans”. That is a bald faced lie and they should
burn for that.

Lets see, we've got he was doing it for national security, only doing eavesdropping on furriners do its okay. Oh and here's the winner this scandal is bogus, democrats are just using it to pick up seats next year.A close tie is his defense of the Clinton impeachment " But, but Bush did it for our country so lying is ok!" Given the recent scandals, I can tell you who's desperate here and it ain't Democrats. If anyone wants to drop this moran a line his website is jameshudnall.com.

:rofl: :rofl:
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:11 PM
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1. Calling the 4th Amendment a "bald-faced lie"...
Major moran alert!
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:24 PM
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2. Don't laugh too hard. That is EXACTLY the meme that they will promote.
And lots of folks will accept it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:26 PM
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3. Hopefully not enough. n/t
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Autobot77 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:11 PM
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6. Another meme I noticed

They keep saying that this is being done to foreign nationals and non-citizens so basically the Constitution does not apply. This has been a meme from the treatment of detainees to secret wiretaps. This is something we really need to counter because most people will think "Oh if they're not citizens its ok"
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:25 PM
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7. And how do they know this exactly?
Because Bush said so? I would take that with many grains of salt. I suspect he was really spying on his political opposition but I have no proof of that either.
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secretmouse Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:36 PM
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4. That's Why, This Time..
We all have to get off our "lazy, Liberal and Elitist" butts, and challenge them with the facts every time they do this..instead of rolling on the floor laughing at their spiel( although I must admit, I do it too!) we have to remember that the Gaga-Heads,Ditto-Heads and Sheepie-Mehs believe every word of their crap.Rove's tactics are simple, but effective...one message, one voice, over and over and over and over..until the poor group-thinkers believe it.

We have to challenge them at every turn...get our own, "One Message, One Voice, Over and Over and Over" to counteract the Repugs.

I've had a wonderful afternoon debunking the "Clinton and carter did it too" crowd...and I got my ammunition right here, on this wonderful wonderful site..the Research Forum ROCKS!
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Jamnt Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:46 PM
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5. Very well said
I couldn't agree more
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:50 PM
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Edited on Sat Dec-24-05 09:50 PM by u4ic
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 09:50 PM
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8. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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secretmouse Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 11:24 PM
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9. Thank you...
I hope that beer is Samuel Adams!
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