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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:13 AM
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Why is Bush* breaking this law any more important than other laws
Like the Presidential Papers Act. This is a Congressional Law that Bush* immediately decided he was above. No disgruntlement from any Democrat over this Law ignored so why are they upset over new revelations of Bush*'s illegal activities? To me disregarding Congressional Law is an Impeachable Offense as well as disregarding this spying law. How many laws has Bush* totally ignored? At least Bush* has an excuse for the spying. Maybe his excuse is not good enough but it is an excuse and he has legal scholars agreeing with him but he has no excuse what-so-ever for throwing out the Law about releasing Presidential Papers yet Democrats have nothing to say about it... Why???
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:17 AM
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1. I've wondered that, too.
These guys just seem to break laws indescriminately.

Must be fun to be able to do that.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:30 AM
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2. Because the PPA does not tap my phone
It is more of a violation of potentially anyone's privacy.

Sure, he started criminal right out of the box, but this is a Nixon dwarfing violation, and any legal scholar that supports doing this is either complicit, or from the University of Chicago.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:34 AM
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3. I personally don't think it's MORE important
I think it's AS important.

Any time a President of the United States (no matter who much of an idiot he is) breaks the law, it's huge.

However, I think this particular violation has struck a nerve with many more people, because it's more personal: it has to do with spying on domestic citizens. People "get" that. And for the people who were around at the time, it reminds them of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI.

Sadly, due to a lot of people being intellectually lazy in this country, it's much harder for them to understand and wrap their brain around the Bush Crime Team violating the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, and outing a covert CIA operative.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:59 AM
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4. Please don't make a statement of fact that NO Dems were disgruntled..
by * dissing the Presidential Papers Act. You can not make a sweeping statement like that unless you know what every single Democrat says 24/7 and you cannot possibly know that. For the record I can give you one Democrat, Robert Byrd, was was indeed quite vexed about this act.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:59 AM
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5. It would be much better for gw if he had simply spied on the
entirety of the rest of the civilized world, every continent, every country, every world citizen. But, he messed up and narrowed his gaze upon so say "innocent" Americans..... and that is a little too close to home for some people. Spy on rest of the world, good, spy on us bad.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 11:09 AM
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6. Because domestic spying impacts Americans directly.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 11:14 AM
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7. They finally got a subject the average American and media can
understand besides sex. Although I would have thought lying to start a war would get people upset, but maybe it's because I've been against this clown in the NC primary in 2000.
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Karmakaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 11:15 AM
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8. I think its because the amendments to the constitution...
are like the ten commandments of the religion called "America". All other laws derive their authority from the constitution. IF a law is against the constitution it is struck down. Acts come and go with the whim of the legislature, but the amendments are pratically carved in stone. To break one of those is a fundamental attack on what it means to be American.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:20 AM
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10. Why no outrage over the "No Knock Policy"?
Or the arrest and confinement of a US citizen on US territory and not allowing that person any of the Constitutional rights guaranteed . Like Due Process, Right to an attorney, right to face your accuser, right to a speedy trial, right to a jury of your peers, etc. etc. I have not heard much outrage over these specific violations...The "No Knock Policy" goes all the way back to Reagan..
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 12:44 PM
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9. Spying on US is a violation of Constitutional AND congressional
Law. it is not more important, but with Bush's televised confession of the comission of the crime and the surfacing of prior statements to America that he would never spy without getting judges ok first shows his conspiracy to cover up what he had been doing for over 2 years when he made that statement.

You can argue for years in court whether he lied us into a war and cooked evidence. he confessed to spying on americans without court approval.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:25 AM
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11. Becasue the violation of the constitution is so clear
that it will be an easy case to prove in court. Especially since Bush openly admitted doing this.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:28 AM
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12. It's a direct attack on congressional power by the
executive branch and what appears to be a blatant attack on the 4th amendment.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 11:27 AM
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13. We are suppose to be fighting
for freedom and liberty.If that is what you are truly fighting for,then you can't take freedom and liberty away from your own country.You lose what little credibility you have left.you lose it with the two groups you need most the troops,and the people of Iraq.
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