"you don't sit around....and say, gosh....how many people are going to die

from a recent interview with Jim Lehrer:



edit to add this little memorable item:

Pat Robertson: Bush told him there would be no casualties
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/10/20/politics1458EDT0636.DTL

Truly the most frightening spectacle I have ever seen in my life.

Can this asswipe count?

and that's what is so frightening .. :cry:

"we went in we had a plan to target the guilty and spare the innocent and with our precision weaponry and a military that is a humane group of people that we did a good job of that." . . .

wonder if he's seen the pictures . . .

caught on tape by the British press video feed saying "Feels good" while making some gesture with his fist just before ordering the invasion of Iraq. Of course that bit was never shown to the "Merkins"

That snippet sounds like "interview with a psychopath" -- so cavalier about others' deaths.

with some links but i don't know if the links still work though.


http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/03/21_groom.html

:puke:

30,000 my ass. Shock and Awe probably took out that many.

Hey he only killed a small number compared to that "tyrant". Context.

:eyes:

The lives of other people mean nothing to him.

Welcome to DU.

He and his mom "beautiful mind" Babs couldn't care less about the common folk which in their minds, are pretty much everyone.

He doesn't care about people, period!

As a Commander-in-Chief (even a half-a@s one), you better well be thinking about casualties, and the human impact.

Please allow me to read this particular excerpt from the book "Thirteen Days: A Memoir of the Cuban Missile Crisis" by Robert F. Kennedy.

In the book, Robert F. Kennedy writes, in part:

"By Thursday night, there was a majority opinion in our group for a blockade......We explained our recommendations to the President.....The next morning, at our meeting at the State Department, there were sharp disagreements again. The strain and the hours without sleep were beginning to take their toll.....Each one of us was being asked to make a recommendation which would affect the future of all mankind, a recommendation which, if wrong and if accepted, could mean the destruction of the human race..." (Pages 34-35)

The point being that President Kennedy, and the men and women who surrounded him, understood the human implications of whatever action they might decide to take against the Soviet Union.

They realized it wasn't just about John F. Kennedy and Khruschchev. It was about American children. It was about children in the Soviet Union. It was about people, in general, and our survival as a race.

And that is why President Kennedy did not rush to a decision. He understood the threat, but also realized the need to make the RIGHT decision.

Fuck you chimpy!

You worthless little asswipe!

" there's hundreds of thousands who were killed by the tyrant" :rofl:
Well you got Saddam on trail PROOF IT.
Wait hmm tyrant no reference to who why cant say Saddam hahaha.
Or hey maybe you like beating around the BUSH.
Or maybe need to explain where the hundreds of thousand Iraqies disappear too.
Maybe some UFO came and take them to a different planet.
Maybe the UFO came in under the cover of over 2 million plus bombs drop in Iraq
Maybe need to get rid of Bombs so can order new one so just blast anything
Maybe all those buildings destroy all empty.
Maybe MJ took them all to Never Never Land

There come a time when those question will be asked and all those missing will need to be answered for. Plenty of skeletons in closet. Stay as long as you can afford. But time is running out. Soon soon the world will uncover the truth. We waiting.

You can't fix Iraq you need World help. No way for you to hide TRUTH. Maybe who knows US can repair Iraq by themselves. Pour in the monies hehe pour pour and pray there won't be another Katrina.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/10/28/iraq_deaths041028.html

The picture in the CBC article showing an Iraqi building blowing up is just sad.

Outside of slavery I can think of no bigger blunder in our history ... that includes
the genocide of the native Americans too. That was evil but their are a hell of a lot
more Islamics then their were American Indians.

That we have to guess how many dies. Sad that even in this modern world they think they can hide the truth forever. Sad to think that 2 million bombs and only 30,000 people killed and so many people just stop thinking or refuse to think.

What is FACTS and WHAT is Fantasy?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HAS20051216&articleId=1491


The Crimes of U.S. ‘Democracy’

by Ghali Hassan

December 16, 2005
GlobalResearch.ca

“How many Iraqi citizens have died in this war? I would say; 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis. We’ve lost about 2,140 of our own troops” – George W. Bush, 12 December 2005.


As the Occupation of Iraq is approaching three years, the mass murder of Iraqi civilians is not questioned, but normalised in Western conscience. President Bush reached the stage where he is able to make his own figure of Iraqi deaths, with no remorse or sadness. The war was not the result of “wrong intelligence”; the war was an illegal act of aggression, and a premeditated mass murder. ‘Democracy’ is used as a tool to manipulate the public and justify war crimes.

The most conservative estimate of Iraqi deaths was reported in October 2004 by a group of medical scientists from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, Columbia University and Al-Mustansiriyah School of Medicine in Baghdad. The conservative estimate of more than 100,000 Iraqi deaths was published in the reputed and peer-reviewed British medical journal the Lancet. If one includes the atrocities in Fallujah, Ramadi, al-Qaim, Tel Afar, Hillah, Baghdad and the daily mayhem instigated by U.S. forces and their collaborators, the number of Iraqis killed since March 2003 would be in the 200,000 mark or even more. It also estimated that 85 per cent of all violent deaths are by “coalition forces” and that many of these are due to U.S. aerial bombardments. The majority of the victims were innocent women and children.

According to Robert Fisk of the Independent; “The Ministry of Health figures in July alone, was 1,100 Iraqi deaths in Baghdad alone. If you spread that across, Mosul, Kirkuk, maybe Irbil , all way down to Basra , through the months, and you must be talking of 3,000 to 4,000 a month. That's 36,000 to 48,000 a year”. This makes the “100,000 figure of rightly as being quite conservative”, added Fisk. This figure has been recently substantiated.

However, the Lancet study was deliberately ignored or dismissed by the U.S.-British corporate mass media. In fact the study is now censored by mainstream media because it shows a mass murder. The media and Western elites roles have always been to selectively describe crimes allegedly – never proven – committed by the regime of Saddam Hussein as “mass murder”, while dismissing crimes committed by Western powers.


..more..

If he didn't know specifically, why didn't he say that before? Instead, he casually tossed out the figure of "30,000, more or less." He didn't tell us he was just pulling a number out of his ass.

Murikans feel lots better about killin' them brown-skinned folks when it's only 30,000 instead of a hunnert thousand, don'tcha know? That's, like, 10 of 'em for every 1 who died on September 11. "Oh, hell, JimBob, it outta be a hunnert for every 1 of us. I'll git to feelin' bad when 300,000 of them Eye-rackees have gone to hell, cuz they sho ain't going to heaven since they don't be-leeeve in Jayzus."

We're bringing democracy to heathens? Have I got that right?

:sarcasm:

He said that crap and his poll numbers jump up. I dont know know who is worse, this administration, or those who blindly follow them.