Did I lose credibility?

When I first read the Umass/Little Red book post on here, I called UMass library to confirm the story. Since she did confirm it, I ADAMANTLY (well, for me) defended the credibility of that story here. Now that it has been debunked (although, I'm still not 100% sure...who knows with this administration?), I feel like the guy who cried wolf.

I have had my doubts all along, but I am still waiting for some actual proof. If you have some, I'd love to see it.

can't find the original
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5680767

We all get misled in this Age of Lies. Your motivations sound good and you did more than 99% of the posters here do before posting a position/argument.

PB

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I mean, come on, the people who have NO CREDIBILITY at all any more are the likes of the New Your Times, the POTUS, his entire Cabinet and the majority of Congress. YOU have nothing to worry about.

This story still bugs me though. Maybe because it's so local.

*Still support the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq

*Support the Patriot Act

*Support the privitazation of SS

*Argue that tax cuts for the RICH Stimulate the Economy

*Argue that Wal-Mart is good for America

*Support the DLC

Your error (if indded it was one) is a venial sin, redemption earned by a post correcting the error (if it was one).

Go in PEACE, my son. Your sins have been forgiven. :+

But I dont hold you accountable. You were passing along what was told/or read by you. That guy(the liar) should be held accountable for felonious lying....Why has the agents who supposedly are involved with this
arresting that LIAR? SkiGuy, don't lose any sleep over this !!!!!

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You've got the NYT, entire Bush administration, and Congress killing untold tens of thousands of innocent people for totally fabricated reasons and you want to have this idiot arrested for "felonious lying" ?


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murder). Hope I didn't offend you. I admit my reply was OTT and I apologize.

In this day in age, what can we believe? Disinformation, misinformation, lies, spins.... all designed to confuse the enemy. Us. The American citizen.

Did the kid make it up? Or did it really happen? Were there really people left starving on roof tops in NO? Or was that just BS? Is Bushie really breaking the law with wiretaps? Or does he have the right? Was Plame really a secret operative? Or did she herself brag about her job?

Shock and awe. And confuse. And in the next three years, when Presidential term limits are erased, the American public will be too brainwashed and confused to even care.

Merry freaking Christmas.

And don't ever let them make you think you can't know it or speak it.

Always look for the truth (which is why I called the library)
Either way, there is plenty we know, factually, that King George lied many times.

And thanks fellow, DUers

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Fears over CIA 'university spies'


The CIA scholars attend summer training camps
A CIA scheme to sponsor trainee spies secretly through US university courses has caused anger among UK academics.

The Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program pays anthropology students, whose names are not disclosed, up to $50,000 (£27,500) a year.

They are expected to use the techniques of "fieldwork" to gather political and cultural details on other countries.

Britain's Association of Social Anthropologists called the scholarships ethically "dangerous" and divisive.

'Detailed knowledge'

The ASA's president, John Gledhill, told the BBC News website the scholarships could foster suspicion within universities worldwide and cause problems in the field.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4603271.st...



http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/0 ...

Wednesday, August 3rd, 2005
The Intelligence-University Complex: CIA Secretly Supports Scholarships

College students are also being integrated into the U.S. foreign policy agenda. Last year the Senate created a scholarship to train intelligence operatives and analysts in American universities for careers in the CIA and other agencies. We speak with the anthropologist who designed the scholarship and another anthropologist who has spoken out opposing the program. We continue to look at the issue of the militarization of civil institutions – this time in academia. The Intelligence Authorization Act is an annual bill that allocates funds for intelligence agencies. When congress passed the 2004 legislation and President Bush signed it into law, the bill drew fire from many corners because it expanded the Patriot Act and was passed with little debate.
But there was another provision in the legislation that received almost no attention. Section 318 of the bill appropriated 4 million dollars to fund a pilot program called the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program, known as PRISP. The program is named after Kansas Republican Pat Roberts, who is chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. The scholarship was created in order to train intelligence operatives and analysts in American universities for careers in the CIA and other agencies. The students receive up to $50,000 dollars over a two-year period and are required to complete at least one summer internship at the CIA or other approved agencies. The program is veiled in secrecy - there are no public lists of the participants and there is no requirement that they disclose their affiliation to their professors. David Price in his article in CounterPunch titled, “The CIA's Campus Spies,” writes that he tried to obtain more details about the program but the CIA spokesperson was reluctant to discuss them. Price states that the agency did confirm that “PRISP now funds about 100 students who are studying at an undisclosed number of universities…. but they refused to identify which campuses are hosting these covert scholars.”


As an aside the $4m Pat Roberts scholarships were launched in the wake of the 11 September 2001 attacks to improve US intelligence gathering.
The CIA's website says that a "number of scholarships are awarded to highly qualified students specialising in critical subject areas".
Scholars are expected to go on to work for its directorate of intelligence.

Here's more on that:
http://www.cia-on-campus.org /

Now let usget back to the work of impeaching this bastard!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

a report of this incident, that the librarian said this or that,
then the fact that the original report turns out to be mistaken
and the librarian turns out to be a liar doesn't hurt your
credibility. I mean, what can you do? Go and torture the guy
to make sure he told you the truth? :)

...souces you defend.

The amount of bogus news out their is HUGE!

The best rules are:

If it seems too good to be true, it is; go back and thoroughly check the credibility of the source.

Don't trust anything from UPI, NEWS CORP (they own dozens of related media sites) any "news" site that doesn't make it "one click simple" to find out who they are or who owns them or news sources you've never heard of, until you check them out.

Don't trust any short, 3 to 8 sentience article that does NOT have the writers name on it, even if it says it's from AP, AFP or Reuters, because it's been edited, and most likely distorted by the editing.

What seemed strange about the story to me is that it was reported through professors, and not the student, so it had a second-hand thing going. I thought it might make sense if the student was Muslim, but we never heard the name.

But the FBI seriously could not track the every quasi-communist book in every library... well, they could certainly (and might be) but the wouldn't track down and question every person who gets one out. What about all those copies of The Communist Manisfesto, too, in every college in the US? (With the possible exception of BOb Jones.)

You went through the trouble to call the librarian, so you shouldn't worry about it.

Who knows what to believe anymore in this world? :crazy:

On edit: Actually, after a little research, there seems definitely to be more going on here... hm...

You could be some guy pretending to be Skiguy in order to destroy Skiguy's credibility.

Now, speaking of fraudulent stories, there was a guy pretending to be President of the United States who came up with a real whopper about Saddam Hussein and nuclear weapons. Of course no one would believe a whopper like that.