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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:40 AM
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Found this CHILLING Obit from 2018
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 04:01 AM by Protagoras
http://citypages.com/databank/25/1248/article12626.asp

Always interesting to see people's power of foresight.

"Policy Review, October 5, 2018--George W. Bush, the 43rd president of the United States, died today at Methodist Hospital in Houston, Texas. He was 72. The cause of death was announced as heart failure.

Mr. Bush's always controversial presidency left behind a changed nation and a changed world. Taking office in 2001 after a disputed election settled only by a 5-4 decision by a bitterly divided Supreme Court, and decisively reelected in 2004, President Bush led the United States into four wars, oversaw the dismantling of Social Security and Medicare, and enforced a drastic shrinking of elementary, secondary, and collegiate education. He spearheaded the transformation of President Bill Clinton's budget surpluses of 1999 and 2000 into permanent deficits of more than a trillion dollars a year, thus profoundly reducing the amount of capital available to address the needs of the vast majority of citizens and inhibiting the creation of new jobs with any promise of advancement or financial security, while at the same time pursuing tax reductions that increased the differences between the income and assets of, in his own terminology, "owners" and "pre-owners" of "the American ownership society" to extremes almost beyond measure. When he left office, taxation of personal and corporate incomes, while still legally extant, had been effectively replaced by a new payroll tax, so that almost all investment, inheritance, and interest income was left tax-free. "Those with the greatest stake in America," President Bush often said throughout his second term, "have the greatest stake in defending it. Thus we as a nation must do all that we can to ensure that the commitment of those with the greatest stake to the rest of us, a commitment on which our freedom and security rests, only grows greater."

... lots more (all written November 3, 2004)
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:45 AM
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1. Chilling doesn't do it justice.
With U.S. Armed Forces tied down in Iraq, Mr. Bush turned to what critics called a "private army subject to no law and operating at the whim of a single individual"--that is, to large numbers of private contractors employed by U. S., Serbian, Nigerian, and Saudi corporations--to launch land, sea, and air attacks meant to destroy nuclear facilities in both Iran and North Korea. While the Afghan and Iraqi armies and governments had collapsed almost at the first sign of American assault, the Iranian and North Korean invasions were beaten back by sustained resistance and, in North Korea, the use of explosives that Mr. Bush denounced as "tactical nuclear weapons," though this was later proved not to be the case. Nonetheless Mr. Bush then ordered what he described as "pinpoint" nuclear attacks on the nuclear sites in Iran and North Korea, which, while achieving their goals, also led to the One-Day War, a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan that left Bombay and Karachi in ruins and led to the fall of the governments of both countries, and to the withdrawal of the American-led coalition forces from Iraq. The result was the series of still-continuing civil wars throughout the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent that, while involving no unconventional weapons since 2006 have, according to the United Nations, caused the deaths of 12 million people and the displacement of millions more. Mr. Bush's claim in action if not in words that the United States retained an international monopoly on the legitimate use of force left allies such as Great Britain and alliances such as NATO crippled; it also left the United States at least formally unchallenged.


It was often said, during Mr. Bush's first term, that he saw himself as a messianic figure, ordained by God to carry the flag of freedom ("God's gift," in Mr. Bush's words, "to every individual") to the corners of the earth, and that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, at least, were part of a crusade of transcendent significance. After Mr. Bush's reelection, it was increasingly argued that his wars were a diversionary and obfuscatory tactic meant to raise Mr. Bush's standing, and the power of the Republican Party both in Congress and in the states, solely for the benefit of Mr. Bush's domestic agenda, and that, as the poet Donald Hall wrote, "it was the United States itself that was the true object of conquest." While that is a matter for history to settle (when, as Mr. Bush himself once put it, "we'll all be dead"), few would dispute that Mr. Bush left the United States if not conquered then irrevocably changed--and, according to the American novelist Philip Roth, who in 2008, cited by the Swedish Academy as "the voice of a lost republic," was awarded the Nobel Prize for literature, "less a nation governed by its citizenry, where each of us has one vote, than a stock exchange owned by its shareholders, according to the number of their shares."



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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:06 AM
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10. "Schwarzenegger, the enormously popular and skillful governor of CA"?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:12 AM
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11. Odd, isn't it?
I'm kind of glad I won't be around long enough to see how the history books record the actions of this administration.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:45 AM
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2. I have this piece of art I dream of.
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 03:46 AM by lvx35
It shows four urinals, one with the face of Hitler in it, one with the face of Mao in it, one with the face of Stalin in it, and a forth with a question mark in it, with the words "your picture here" above it. to the bottom right, you see the back of GW, contemplating the fourth one...The caption is "decisions, decisions." If I were an artist I'd make it now.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:56 AM
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3. What I think is interesting about that "obituary"
is its prediction that Bush will be preceded in death by everyone in his immediate family, and be survived by his parents. Creepy, no? And more of a condemnation of Poppy and Babs than * in some ways.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:00 AM
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6. actually I was quite surprised a few days ago
to read that Ladybird Johnson is still alive.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:00 AM
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7. delete dupe n/t
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 04:00 AM by hfojvt
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:00 AM
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8. Was there any part of it
that seemed out of reach to you?

I have no problem believing events could unfold the way they're depicted in this fictional obituary.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:58 AM
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4. decisively re-elected?
not even in terms of electoral votes. More like divisively re-selected.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:06 PM
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34. That jumped out at me too.
More like 'barely re-elected'.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:58 AM
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5. Obvious fraud

His heart failed long ago
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:04 AM
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9. 03/11/04? Figures
Did seem like the end of the world that day :cry:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:48 AM
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17. Someone remembers.
:-(
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:13 AM
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12. Definitely the stuff of nightmares
Except for this part:

as a result of the passage of the 28th Amendment in 2006 and its ratification by the states the next year, in 2008 Mr. Bush announced his candidacy for a third term. He was overwhelmingly defeated that November by former President Bill Clinton.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:17 PM
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30. I wonder if a 3rd term for Clinton
could even reverse the supreme court stacking and economic devistation of the Bush junta.

That being said, if we were ever going to screw up enough to allow 3rd terms, I'd be willing to take a shot with Bill.

But I'd much prefer to exile Chimpy and be done with this American Neocon Nightmare altogether.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:16 AM
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13. K&R
:scared:
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 04:22 AM
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14. G W Bush - the Great Communicaterer
this is fiction right?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:01 AM
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15. This author is an optimist...
I sometimes wonder if our planet will survive the reckless, foolish, warmongering decisions of Junior and his neocon brigade.

The possible scenarios laid out by this fictional obit--are a best-case scenario.

They want to invade Iran now, and possibly Syria.

Their torture practices will continue. They will continue to thumb their nose at the UN
and behave like unaccountable, above-the-law criminals.

They will continue to strip us of our freedoms and privacy, at home.

They have only begun.

America will not stand for this. The world will not stand for more of their antics. Can you imagine how other countries will react when BushCo makes a case for invading Iran--with Iraq in ruins and no credibility on their plate? It isn't going to be pretty and there certainly won't be a "coalition of the willing" this time.

The neocons will blindly and haphazardly--at the expense of the entire planet--move forward with their pathological agenda.

Again, this obit lays out the best-case scenario for the repercussions of Junior's actions.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:12 AM
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20. "Coalition of the Willing" Doesn't that kind of sound like...
"Coalition of Those Who Won't Complain and Consider It Rape"d or "Coalition of Those Who'll Just Lay Back and Take It."

I do not mean that frivolously. It is a very strange term.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:18 PM
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28. I hear you, "Coalition of the Willing" was a sick attempt...
...to define any courageous nation who would stand up to our idiocy as "unwilling" to fight terrorism.

"Coalition of the Willing" positioned participants as against evil and terrorism--and outsiders are proponents of evil and terror.

I remember the strong-arming that Bush did after 9/11; and in the run up to the Iraq war. How can we forget, "You're either with us or you're against us". In other words--you do what we say or you are the enemy. At that point, the US hadn't yet evolved into a fascist dictatorship, like it is now. Leaders were willing to give us the benefit of the doubt and give in.

We've used up all of our political capital, we've pissed off so many people and leaders see BushCo for who and what they are--bullies who want to torture and push everyone around with intimidation and fear. Countries are unafraid of being defined as "unwilling" now. Those marketing semantics will not fly this time.

It's quiet scary. I feel that BushCo is pulling the United States on one side of the world--and the rest of the world on the other.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:46 AM
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16. Bush will not finish his second term.
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 05:52 AM by leveymg
Between the Enron case, which is finally going to trial, the Libby,Abramoff, Wilkes, and the OSP-AIPAC trials, the papers are going to be full of details about how the neocons and Republican organized crime syndicates stole America and sold the nation's future down the river. The Plamegate and warrantless domestic spying scandals are tickets to impeachment, and the truth will come out about the Administration's criminal negligence that led to 9/11. This is going to be worse for them than Watergate.

The professional military and intelligence services are not about to let us get into a another disasterous misadventure in the Middle East.

History will show that 2006 was a disasterous year for BushCo and the GOP, and that America turned a corner and started to restore the Republic!

- Mark

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:55 AM
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18. I sure hope so, since they still have Diebold in their court
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:39 AM
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21. I sure hope so, too.
Because, if I'm wrong about the essential integrity of the professionals in government . . . Orwell's 1984 doesn't even begin to capture the nightmare that could be coming.

One good thing about Bush. A lot of people have lost their illusions that it can't happen here.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:44 AM
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22. the optimist in me . . .
. . . agrees with you. The shitstorm that awaits Bush and the Neo-Nazis in '06 is a juggernaut of truth.

The pessissimist, however, reminds me that the idiot sociopath still has access to the "nukular option".

When the pessissmist rears its head, I intend to write a LTTE or sign a petition or go carry a sign. We have GOT to keep the pressure up on the press to present the awful truth to this complacent society. The constitution was written by brilliant men. Brave men and women who are willing to wield it with passion can overcome this cabal of greed and hatred.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 01:21 PM
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29. I like your optimism, Mark---
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 01:21 PM by TwoSparkles
...and I hope you are correct.

I get depressed when I see how many scandals this misadministration has circumvented. If Reagan was the "Teflon President" then BushCo is the "Teflon Administration."

I really hope you are right, and I will hang on to your optimism and draw some hope, for now.

I am a bit gloomy these days. I look at my two preschool-aged children and I am so scared for them.

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:49 PM
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33. I'll think about your kids . . .
. . . next time I write my (very capable) representative.

. . . and the next time I fire a verbal salvo at my two worthless, repuke senators.

Cheers, lady.

:hi:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:08 AM
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19. How could he die of heart failure?
There is a black cinder where his heart should be.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:59 AM
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23. I did like the part about Clinton beating Bush to win a third term!
"It later transpired that the amendment was a ruse: When Democrats attempted to "poison" the amendment by proposing that all restrictions on who might become president be removed (the requirement that a president be at least 35 years old, the two-term limit), the Republicans immediately acquiesced, and as a result of the passage of the 28th Amendment in 2006 and its ratification by the states the next year, in 2008 Mr. Bush announced his candidacy for a third term. He was overwhelmingly defeated that November by former President Bill Clinton."
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 07:09 AM
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24. 'Winners' write the history books
Unless Bu$h is thoroughly discredited, he will be a 'winner' in the history books.

Lets make damn sure, he pays for what he has done, and is not allowed to skate. I'd like to see him marched out of the Whitehouse before his term ends, in chains.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:20 AM
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25. Why didn't we read any "history" in school the likes of which we
have been living for the past 5 nightmarish years??? Woulda been much more interesting.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:38 AM
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26. Died of Heart Failure?
According to The Wizard of Oz...Tin Men don't have hearts! :headbang:
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:19 PM
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31. if he only had a brain n/t
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:49 AM
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27. He won't die that young...
..He has genetics and wealth on his side.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:38 PM
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32. NIce wrap up...
"...Mr. Bush was preceded in death by his sister Robin Bush, his brothers John "Jeb" Bush, the former governor of Florida, Neil Bush, and Marvin Bush, and his sister Dorothy Bush Koch. He is survived by his parents...."
I guess once you sold your soul to the Devil...

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 09:21 PM
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35. It's missing all the quotes praising him and his work
from all the snakes and slimeballs who have always believed, or will believe by then, that he is a great statesman.

You can't not have those.

Even his detractors will have found something positive to say. After all, one can't speak ill of the dead, right? :sarcasm:
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