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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:34 PM
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College Conservatives crow about rightward shift on campus'
Today's Denver Post ran an article in which College Conservatives proclaimed there was a definite shift to the right on college campus'.

The reporter, Jennifer Brown, opines that the conservative rallies are becoming more sophisticated.

The rallies may be more sophisticated but I don't see that as the primary reason for any increase in impact. Rather, I believe that College Republicans have access to more media outlets and get far greater media exposure than any progressive college activists.

The example they list in the Post is the protest outside of Ward Churchill's classroom. Here you had a protest by between 10-15 republicans and it was covered in both dailies and the organizer was featured on Laura Ingraham's radio show.

Contrast that with a rally against racism, involving hundreds of studentst that didn't receive the same amount of coverage. No one from that rally was invited to appear on national radio programs or featured on FOX News.

The article.

College rallies shift to the right
Despite liberal reputations, colleges increasingly find student protests representing a conservative viewpoint.
By Jennifer Brown
Denver Post Staff Writer

Protests on college campuses are becoming more sophisticated and more often staged by conservative students.

Some conservatives say activism is growing because of a national network reaching out to students who've felt too threatened in the past to speak up on liberal campuses.

"The tides are turning on college campuses," said Jason Mattera, spokesman for the conservative Young America's Foundation in Herndon, Va. "Conservative students will not take liberal garbage anymore."
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3344071
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:38 PM
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1. BORG JOURNALISM (Resistance to the GOP is futile)
Just another other their pre-emptive strikes.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:40 PM
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2. Did I miss something?
This "reporter" writes as if a scientific study was done--but I find mention of no such thing!
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:40 PM
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3. I think that shift...
...has been occurring for decades now.

Most students aren't in college because they thirst for knowledge. They are there for economic and social reasons.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:46 PM
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5. Not in any college I've been to
Although you are correct about colleges becoming vocational training.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:41 AM
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20. I'm not
I'm in college and I'm there to get done with college so I can get a good job someday. All the college kids I know are that way too and serious about their schooling.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:48 PM
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6. Living in a university town I tend to agree
with you. The conservatives have always been there but they were outnumbered and felt ridiculed by the majority. But show me one conservative anthropology major, sociology, psych, etc. Very few. They tend to be in the money making fields, as one would expect.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:51 AM
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17. Well, for one, I'd doubt there's near any RW anthro majors.
One of the basic facts they tell you in the freshman-level anthropology classes is that it deals heavily in EVOLUTION.

And that goes against everything they believe in.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:40 PM
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4. Draft them all
and ship 'em off to Iraq!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 05:52 PM
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7. are you are just trying to create a band wagon mentality to join..?? i
dont see it
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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:12 PM
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9. The reporter, perhaps. Not I.
The reporter may be trying to create the impression that there is this conservative tsunami sweeping away all progressive thought and action on college campus's, but I'm not.

College Republicans have direct access to media outlets, and therefore, receive more publicity than progressive groups and causes.

The example I used to illustrate that was the rally held by students of color. The rallies were held because of an increase in racist actions and, in at least one case, a physical assault. There were hundreds of students who turned out for the major rally and it received scant attention compared to the publicity the 15 college republicans get whenever they decide to hold one of their protest.

The real story here is that the local media is skewed to the right and will decided what is "news" depending on how it fits into their ideological bias.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:43 AM
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21. Democrats and progressives in general need to get organized
on college campuses in more places too. We don't want them to steam roll us with their recruiting.
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:07 PM
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8. Also possible because only the rich can afford...

to go to college nowadays. Especially more so in the future because student loans were cut in the budget last week thanx to DICK cheney,

d

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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:17 PM
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10. Concerning your point about greater media exposure, the manual for
College Republicans provides instructions for how and when to get media exposure.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:22 PM
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11. won't matter when the dam breaks and all the crap comes out.
no one will identify with them after that. I also haven't seen it where I am.
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submerged99 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:24 PM
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12. I'd be interested in seeing that
Do you have a website that might have some of those manuals or instructions?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:43 PM
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14. It seems that it no longer is available online. It used to be.
I downloaded a copy from the national College Republicans site a few years ago, but the hard drive it was on failed and I did not bother to recover anything from it.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 06:26 PM
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13. Wait until there's a draft.
Those Hitler youth melt into chickensh*t.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:38 AM
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15. "If you build it - it will come". They are just trying to intimidate the
80% of students who learn about the world in college and are interested in making a better world rather than trying to hold all marbles. College will do that.
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:49 AM
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16. "Liberal garbage" my fucking ass.
I'm done with my college newspaper; it's run by a bunch of RWers. And this isn't me complaining or whining; it's pretty much a fact.

Why can I say this confidently? Well, my college paper, like most, has a "corrections" section. Most of the time, the corrections are in some tiny box on like page 4 or so.

The paper prints a column on the college republicans misusing student funds (but of course, they're republicans; misusing funds is a rite of passage). Now, even though it was quite obvious they were screwing the system, the next day, on the FUCKING TOP OF THE NEWSCOLUMN ON PAGE 1 ABOVE THE FOLD, is a correction with what seemed like the paper falling all over themselves to apologize that no, the republicans didn't misuse the funds (EVEN THOUGH THEY FUCKING DID).

Most corrections? Tiny box on page 4. Correction about the Republicans? Front-and-center huge box in bold on the front page.

"liberal garbage". HA.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:25 AM
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18. Maybe I'm showing my age...
but there's something kind of creepy about students being conservative. It seems more natural for youth to rebel, to question the establishment, to have a desire to change things for the better. Young Republicans seem like they're willing to just write off years of their lives, and settle into a mindless hive mentality, content with making money, and not much else. What a waste.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:38 AM
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19. I remember
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 02:43 AM by FreedomAngel82
a while back on Fox they showed some republicans doing something stupid which was trying to impersonate Howard Dean's scream. :eyes: It was so pathetic. Of course they get more coverage since the news is in their favor! Doy! You should try to find the film "Brainwashing 101." It's a totally ridiculous propoganda film where cons are saying liberals are being mean to them because they're cons. It's actually opposite. I remember there was the whole thing with cons going around to liberal/leftist professors (or who they think are that way) and putting Nazi stickers on their office doors.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:58 AM
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22. ROTFLMAO. . ..that quote from Mattera
is riotous! Puh-leeeze. . .the Young America's Foundation? Isn't that the nation's leading proponent for establishing such wingnut college coursework like "Moonism and the American Kingdom?"

I've heard about this appearance of changing to the "right". . .but frankly, the attitudes of students aren't all that different. College Republicans remain the ONLY group that tries to ostracize gays on campus - and they aren't very successful. But then, I'd love to know who these students are who have "felt too threatened in the past to speak up on liberal campuses." You mean...hate speeches? My, my . . .you mean the junior Archie Bunkers were afraid to speak up on campus because...they'd be burned to the stake, physically and emotionally harassed, accused of not being critical thinkers? If they haven't spoken up, it's because they are whiny, wimpy cry babies who were more worried about securing their own financial future than speaking out on any sort of principle. And they remain so today. The only wingnuts I see writing or speaking out on campus merely parrot the talking points fed them by their masters at the RNC and their talk show demagogues. . and yes, they try to stealth their way around their own inherent racism and intolerance by naively claiming that hetero-supremacist white male culture IS America. It's the same old package from the 1950's with a different marketing technique.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:44 AM
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23. not from what I've seen and heard. this is just more RW spin.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 05:06 AM
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24. There was something on TV today
I don't have the link, but it was something like campus coservatives or some such. The talk was about challanging liberal professors.
Oh, I remember now it was Silwa filling in for scarborough or someone. He kept crying that a liberal professor would tie things to war and spout off how illegal it was and blah blah. The gal who was being interviewed did pretty well.
I'll have to get my facts straight.
:dem:
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