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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 08:37 PM
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Graham is on the right track
I'm starting to think he would make a great v.p. I like his millionaries tax proposal, I would take it even farther though. Instead of 40% tax on this bracket, I would put it at 50%. In any case, this is a good issue Graham has raised. It will play to the general public and hurt the republicans, regardless of Graham's outcome in the primary race. I hope he keeps bringing this up, and mkes it one of the centerpieces of his campaign.
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Ponderer Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:01 PM
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1. Except that impeachment comment took him out of the running
Democrats need to follow the Republican model here.

Have all of the Democrats except those running for President/Vice President to call for impeachment. Of course Bush won't be impeached, but it takes him off-guard. The candidates who are running will seem noble enough not to call for a partisan impeachment, but will rather be seen as a middle ground between partisan Democrats and a lying Republican.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:04 PM
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2. I disagree...
That remark got on the talking heads shows. Naturally, the Repubs would argue that it hurts him and the Democratic Party. In fact, it draws attention to the Liar in Chief and his polls will drop even further. Graham does know what strings to pull to get the media's attention, I will give him credit for that. (If the Repubs say it is bad for the Democrats, we know we are on the right track)
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lkinsale Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:16 PM
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4. Again and again...he didn't call for impeachment
Here's what he said, twice. Once at the NAACP and again on MSNBC.

Democratic candidates take stage at NAACP Convention July 15, 2003

...Graham intensified his criticisms, telling reporters before the candidates' forum that Bush's deceptions would land him in more trouble if the Democrats controlled Congress.

''If the standard of impeachment that the Republicans set for Bill Clinton, that a personal, consensual relationship was the basis for impeachment, would not a president who knowingly deceived the American people about something as important as whether to go to war meet the standard of impeachment?'' Graham said.


He said the same thing on MSNBC, and they ran the headline that he was calling for impeachment. He issued a statement saying they were wrong.

So how does this take him out of the running? On Hardball today, Tweetie seemed to be taking him pretty seriously.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:21 PM
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5. How so. All he did was say the truth. Do you know what he said?
Or do you belive everything MSNBC, CNN, and the rest of the media scum tell you?

http://www.grahamforpresident.com/

Statement from Senator Bob Graham
A cable news network reported today that I called for President Bush's impeachment. That report is wrong. I answered a question on this subject at NAACP conference earlier this week and I answered another question on this subject today. Impeachment is not a subject I have ever raised on my own. The whole discussion of impeachment is an academic one, and the voters will settle the question of President Bush's conduct in the election next November.

You said "Democrats need to follow the Republican model here." Listen. If I want a Dem to follow a Republican model I may as well vote for a Republican. Your off base here.

Don

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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-03 09:09 PM
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3. I will miss all the Dem Candidates
It seems like each has something to offer even Smokeless Joe and especially Sharpton. Too bad Joe was sunk before he started and Al's got some baggage, I hate to see them go.
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