"9/11 was not planned in Hamburg" – this info could undermine trial

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The trial of a suspected extremist could be dismissed after a German intelligence official said the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States were planned in Afghanistan and not Hamburg, as had been previously thought.

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Heinz Fromm, the head of Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, told a court in Hamburg on Friday that he believed the devastating terrorist attacks that leveled New York’s World Trade Center were planned by the Islamic extremist group al Qaeda in Afghanistan in the late 1990s. "The September 11 attacks were not planned in Hamburg, rather, as far as we know, this happened in Afghanistan," Fromm told the court.

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Fromm was testifying in a case against 30 year-old Moroccan Abdelghani Mzoudi, who is suspected of aiding the extremists that carried out the suicide hijackings of four U.S. airliners. He faces over 3,000 counts of being an accessory to murder and membership in a terrorist organization.

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Fromm said German intelligence believed the three suicide pilots that lived in Hamburg had been recruited in Afghanistan in late 1999. Defense lawyers called for the trial against Mzoudi to be dismissed, saying Fromm’s testimony undermines the prosecutors’ allegations that the September 11 attacks were orchestrated and carried out by the al Qaeda terror cell based in Hamburg. "What the witness has just told the court is diametrically opposed to what the prosecution claims," said defense lawyer Michael Rosenthal. The prosecution contended Fromm’s testimony did not contradict their case, which is pinned on aiding, not just planning, the attacks. Another Moroccan, Mounir El-Motassadeq, was sentenced in February to the maximum 15 years in prison on similar charges.

It is, however, very interesting, that even 2 years after the attacks, it seems to be nearly impossible to prosecute the crimes connected with September 11 attacks in a regular manner, by regular courts. The evidence seems to extremely thin. And the US, the country that suffered most from the attacks has, up to now, not managed to start a single trial to prosecute 9/11-related crimes.
Fromm was, in order to not endanger informants, allowed to cite only publicly available sources (yet, some of them were not known to the court!).
This development got not much coverage in the German press. What about the US media???

Complete Article.

Check out this out. Only students of tradecraft will read the entire lengthy article, which is fairly comprehensive. As to the subject of this thread read below.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html

There's Something About Omar:
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
by Chaim Kupferberg
www.globalresearch.ca , 21 October 2003

The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) at www.globalresearch.ca

<Abu Hamza's role as an Islamic fundamentalist recruiter (along with that of his counterpart in Hamburg, Mohammed Haydar Zammar - the recruiter of Atta and Binalshibh) must be judged in the light of present demographic realities. And the reality is this: with a population in excess of one billion adherents, and a geographic span that stretches from the West African Straits of Gibraltar to the far east of Asia, the Muslim World apparently was not up to the task of furnishing the most hardcore, sophisticated operative cells of al-Qaida...>

<...the man who had allegedly recruited Binalshibh and other members of the "Hamburg cell" into the ranks of Islamic fundamentalism - Mohammed Haydar Zammar... - Finn introduced Zammar as the "charismatic advocate" who had cast his spell over Atta, Binalshibh, and their Hamburg-based colleagues - in much the same way that Abu Hamza had worked his magic on his British charges.>

<And, like Abu Hamza, Zammar was likewise allowed to carry on freely in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 while the German and British authorities were rounding up suspects by the dozens. According to Der Speigel, German intelligence agents had approached Zammar in 1996, offering to recruit him as an informer. Zammar reportedly declined the offer...>

<The $64,000 question, however, is whether Zammar - and British recruiter Abu Hamza - did in fact fall under the influence of any intelligence service. Put simply, if one were to look for the fingerprints of a covert service lurking behind the "Hamburg cell", the most fruitful place to look would be in the vicinity of the man who supposedly forged this insular clique. However, the Der Speigel item had perhaps the unintended effect of casting a thin veil of plausible deniability over this crucial question - for in the event that someone might eventually blow the whistle on an intelligence contact with Zammar...>

I saw your post on this over the weekend. I found this article so damn insightful that I started a separate thread in the 9/11 forum on it. Thanks!

So much smoke and mirrors, it's a wonder that anyone can devine any truth about the set-up and execution of the attack.

However, this might be the most important and illuminating article I've read on the subject.


The more I learn, the less I know.....

... because I found an article by Kupferberg that I read once on the propaganda preparations of 9/11 very interesting.

Doing a google search, I find almost only German hits. Is this topic not interesting to US media? After all, only two trials started against alleged 9/11 terrorists worldwide, and now, the second one is in danger to reach his (intendend) end. Is this not newsworthy? Did someone read something about that in the US press?

here, I think.

The problem is, I think, most people's eye's glaze over trying to keep track of the names, feints, false-flags, etc. This is a complex story, but the point is, there may be no "mastermind" in custody. So who is leaking all this information on Al-Qaeda?


If this story could be simplified, I think it would explode the whole 9/11 charade.

This is more confusing than a John Le Carre plot. It is definitely meant to be. Now you see it, now you don't. I think the information discussed concerning AMI links the hijackers' American sponsors to anthrax, and the WTC. Meanwhile the FBI says "maybe we'll never know who did the anthrax attacks."

I find it interesting that Cannistaro is one of the "former agents" giving testimony to a Daschle organized hearing on the Plame affair. Talk about laying tracks.

Now we hear that the outing of Plame "may be" a violation of the Patriot Act. Oh yeah, where would we be without that Patriot Act to protect us?