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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:39 PM
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Poll question: Did Bush Family Interests kill JFK ? poll
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 08:54 PM by protect freedom impe
Don't blow this question off so fast.

think.

BushSR was CIA in 1963

Some of The Bay of Pigs ships, boats, or watercraft,
were named with same names of Bush family business,
or Bush family members.

BushSR has always been linked to the anti-Castro factions

BushSR and those involved in Bat of Pigs blamed JFK.

JFK fired the CIA Director. That same CIA Director during The
Bay of Pigs was the BROTHER to the Dallas Mayor in 1963


and on....and on..


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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:44 PM
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1. I find the admonition to 'think' presumptuous.
It assumes only agreement with your own conclusion as being correct. :wtf:
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:46 PM
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2. The ships were "Barbara" and "Zapata"
Or so I've been told. The latter was Poppy's old oil company; the former, his trashmouth wife.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:48 PM
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3. Where there's smoke....
Scary as hell. They lie, they cheat, they steal. They kill.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:41 PM
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18. Barbara and Houston
Operation was "Zapata"
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:21 AM
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25. You're right
Thanks for setting me straight.
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aeon flux Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:48 PM
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4. I don't think it was the BFEE

But not for lack of a motive.

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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:49 PM
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5. I've always wondered if Poppy didn't "make his bones"
from a a storm structure inlet in Dealy Plaza, then just simply walk downstream to the Trinity River and go home, or wherever, from there.

Okay, maybe Poppy himself is stretching it but at the time he didn't amount to much more than a punk with Nazi connections.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:49 PM
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6. Where's the "Undecided/don't know" column?
Why are so many of these ad-hoc DU polls coming at us without the "other" selection?

__ It's a CIA operation to disrupt DU

__ It's the BFEE trying to figure out what they're responsible for

__ The mafia wants to make DU an offer we can't refuse

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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:55 PM
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9. added another 'selection' of ignorance is bliss
:)
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:08 PM
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13. Agreed - there has to be an "other" option,
because there are so many other possibilities.
Personally, I have been all but convinced by the December issue of Fortean Times that LBJ and his cabal of homegrown Texas mafiosi were behind it. You should really check it out.
LBJ's friends were involved in a giant scam defrauding the federal government of farm subsidy money. The night before JFK's assassination, there was a party at Clint Murchison's house. The guest of honor was J. Edgar Hoover. LBJ and all of his friends were there, including George Brown (the 'Brown' of Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root). Intriguingly, so was Nixon. That very night, LBJ stated to his mistress: "After tomorrow, those damn Kennedys will never embarrass me again!"
Did you know that LBJ had a sister, Josefa, whose boyfriend was murdered? The man convicted of his murder was Mac Wallace, who did the dirty work for LBJ's little syndicate. At the time of JFK's assassination, Mac Wallace was a free man.
I'm sure Fortean Times must have a website. Get the December issue and read all about it!
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:51 PM
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7. You know, JFK, Jr. WAS going to run for office!!!!


John Kennedy Jr. was set to run for senate in NY and/or the Presidency possibly by 2004.


Kennedy was routinely asked by NY Democrats to be a candidate for public office.


Kennedy was quietly exploring a campaign for the US senate seat in 2000 before the 1st Lady expressed interest.


It was ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE HE RAN FOR SOMETHING.
Indications that Hillary Clinton was less than serious regarding a NY Senate campaign make it even MORE likely Kennedy WOULD have ended up being a (formidable) candidate.


The "managed media" report that he was flying in "bad weather" is an absolute lie and there is proof with both witnesses and photographs . What does this mean? Does it mean:

1) that JFK Jr., his wife and sister-in-law were murdered as soon as the killers ID'd his plane on its approach for a landing? Yes! It means exactly that.

2) that those who "control" the MEDIA SPIN and those who own the "managed media" who tell their editors and reporters what to write, what to print and what to show, COVERED UP THIS CRIME? Exactly! Before your very eyes!

3) that those in the executive branch of government who control the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, the ISA, the NTSB and all investigative agencies related to the crime are "involved" in this act of murder? Yes!


"CAMELOT KILLINGS"

The Murder of JFK Jr. and the Sisters Bissette


http://www.freeworldalliance.com/camelot.htm#articles


Poppa =JFK, Sr. DumBya =JFK, Jr.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:54 PM
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8. Everyone don your tinfoil
November 22 is just around the corner--time to get paranoid!!

:tinfoilhat:
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:57 PM
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10. I believe in the "Deep Politics" model
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 08:58 PM by Minstrel Boy
that the conspirators were an alliance - an old alliance, and an ongoing one - of military, intelligence, criminal and industrial interests.

Bush Sr could have played a role. As a Texas oil man working for the CIA, linked to the Bay of Pigs, it seems like a natural fit. But if so, his role would have been relatively minor. To speak of Kennedy's assassination as a "BFEE hit" is just silly. To succeed and get away with it, the killing needed sanction from some of the most powerful office holders in Washington. That wasn't GHW Bush in 1963.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:59 PM
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11. Who didn't kill JFK?
I've heard it was Castro, the CIA, the Bushes, LBJ, the Mafia...and Lee Harvey Oswald. I think everyone was in on it.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:01 PM
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12. It was the mob.
Period. They helped elect him, and he set his brother RFK on them. Payback, sometimes, is a bitch.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:18 PM
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15. Did the mob set the motorcade route?
The route which necessitated the more than 90 degree left turn onto the highway ramp?
I think LBJ is a possibility.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:24 PM
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14. What really strikes me
is that reportedly, when Bush Sr. was asked where he was on Nov. 22, 1963, he said that he "didn't remember". WTF?!?!! Everyone over the age of 6 (at the time) remembers where they were that awful day...
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:40 PM
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17. BushSR's Cubans were caught on film in Dallas day of JFK death
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 11:57 PM by protect freedom impe
On the day of the assassination Bush was in Texas, but he denies knowing exactly where he was. Since he had been the supervisor for the secret Cuban teams, headed by former Cuban police commander Felix Rodriguez, since 1960, it is likely Bush was also in Dallas in 1963. Several of the Cubans he was supervising as dirty-tricks teams for Nixon, were photographed in the Zagruder film.


- -

hmmmm...not sure this is correct...maybe it was photos taken of the
"bums"
hmmm...'bums' with shiny blck shoes.

think it was photos taken by Dallas police of the bums behind the
grassy knoll's fence,,,, by the RR tracks
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 PM
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16. DU is really insane. I mean, REALLY, REALLY insane. I picked #4 -
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 11:30 PM by RichM
the one about CIA rogue elements. THAT would be enough to have ME regarded as a conspiracy lunatic by most of the people in this country. But here, I'm way "conservative" -- just because I don't believe the Bushes were specifically in on it!! Too funny!
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:47 PM
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20. poppy was cia.............
n/t
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:29 AM
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28. LOL! Again, note that Santa Claus got more votes than the very
reasonable straightforward "CIA rogue elements" theory! This could only happen among a rather, er, unusual testing population.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:46 PM
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19. I voted maybe...
I think JFK was killed for political reason. I think the Bush family has a slim chance of being involved, but the overall ideas they stand for definately played a part.

What about his son? Pilot error, I'll believe that, but the guy (imo) was poised for a move into politics eventually.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:06 AM
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21. Whaaaa?
only 75% believe the BFEE offed Kennedy?

Let's unfreep this poll folks. :evilgrin:
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:08 AM
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22. Things happen.
Not everything bad that occurs to Democrats is the result of some massive, ultra-secret right-wing conspiracy. These people (BFEE)really aren't that smart.
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:01 AM
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23. Kind of amazing that a guy who was powerful enough to off the President
in November of 1963 and get clean away with it, mobilizing
the FBI and CIA to cover up his operation and control the
finding of a Presidential commission couldn't find a way
to win a Senate election less than a year later.


His essence wasn't right in '64, Mandrake.


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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:26 AM
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24. New evidence shows conclusively that the Roman Emperor Caligula
was, in fact, murdered by a plot engineered by Gaius
Germanicus Pompeius Georgius Bushus, a Roman Senator and
ancient relative of the current President. Bushus had gained
control of the increasingly irrelevent Roman Senate and had hoped
that the death of Caligula would lead to a restoration of the
Roman republic. He arranged for his evil henchman, Rovius Karolus,
to stab the Emperor to death after the Palatine Games. The plot
backfired, however, when members of the Imperial Guard, fearing
the loss of their jobs if there was no Emperor to guard proclaimed
Caligula's drooling stuttering uncle Claudius to be the new Emperor.

Caliggy, we hardly knew ye.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:23 AM
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26. no
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:31 AM
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27. The CIA put the hit on Kennedy IMHO!
BUSH was involved, as was Johnson! Both men were put in office indirectly by the same people who are going to make BILLIONS on Iraq! That's right Brown and Root/Halliburton! It was over Kennedy getting ready to clean house in the CIA! Bush got revenge for Kennedy's threat to Prescott Bush's longtime business partners in the CIA! Bush's get even, look at Wilson's wife and the so called leak at the WH the other day!
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