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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:00 PM
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Massive undecided Democratic voters=enormous problem!
(repost at mod request.)

ON EDIT: YES this from South Carolina, but these are supposed to be DEMOCRATS. You know, people on OUR SIDE?

It looks like we should run "Undecided." And don't even tell me that ANYWHERE besides Iowa is one of our candidates running at more than 20% over the others. This is a catastrophe, and someone, more than one, should "take one for the team."

Carol Moseley Braun 5% 4% 1% 1% NI
Wesley Clark 17% 7% 0% 0% 0%
Howard Dean 7% 6% 5% 2% 2%
John Edwards 10% 16% 10% 7% 8%
Dick Gephardt 7% 5% 8% 9% 11%
John Kerry 4% 5% 6% 8% 1%
Dennis Kucinich 1% 1% 1% 0% NI
Joe Lieberman 8% 7% 14% 19% 22%
Al Sharpton 5% 5% 4% 3% 4%
Undecided 36% 42% 48% 47% 51%
NI - Not included

http://americanresearchgroup.com/sc/

This is utterly pathetic. Any Democrat who sees a poll where the UNDECIDED outnumbers the leading candidate by a TWO TO ONE MARGIN is falling headfirst into a sewer, holding his nose to kid himself.

Sorry. I go along with some others out there. As we say in Euchre, "Time to get the 'little boys' off the street."

The some of the bottom 4 or 5 ought to stop offering the "decision challenged" too many choices.

"At the narrow passage, there is no brother and no friend." Bedouin Proverb
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:02 PM
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1. along with the massive voters
we should probably dedicate a little time and effort to the smallish ones.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:02 PM
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2. Even if Dean and Clark were the only ones running...
Edited on Fri Oct-31-03 01:04 PM by pmbryant
I would still be 'undecided'.

I don't think the undecided voters are undecided because of Sharpton, Kucinich, Mosely-Braun, et al. So them dropping out wouldn't change the situation at all.

EDIT: Oh, and why exactly is it a problem that so many people are still undecided? There are several months left before the first primaries.

--Peter
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:04 PM
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3. Relax, plenty of time left
Most people aren't into politics like the folks of DU are. Within the next few months voters will start learning who's-who.
Plenty of time for Dean to win the Nomination in Boston & kick Bu$h lilly-white butt in November.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:06 PM
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4. I am undecided
I guess I am part of the problem. I guess it is wrong for me to carefully study ALL of the candidates, all of the issues, and all of the debates before I make this extremely important desicion. :eyes:
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:21 PM
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11. Properly sarcastic and snarky.
If you don't think it's an issue, fine. But some folks need to stop looking for another outlet for there need to feel superior.

Sorry. I just feel very strongly about this. I've watched it happen before.
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PurpHaze69 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:06 PM
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5. Out of the 9
the bottom 6 should drop out, take their money and donate to one of the three remaining candidates. If they really love their party, they would do this. Braun, Kucinich, Sharpton, get the hell out of there, you're dragging the party down.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:07 PM
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6. what's the problem?
I don't get it.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:23 PM
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12. South Carolina has gone Republican in how many of the last 6 elections?
You have to be kidding me.

1984 - R(Reagon)vs Mondale
1988 - R(Bush)vs Dukakis
1992 - R(Bush)vs Clinton
1996 - R(Dole)vs Clinton
2000 - R(Bush)vs Gore
2004 - umm, let me guess, Bush.

When the Repug lose SC, that the end of them.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:12 PM
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7. No. I'm Undecided Too. There Are A Lot of Good Candidates.
A think any number of possible Tickets would be very successful.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:13 PM
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8. PUH-Lenty of time left. Riiiight.
Whether we agree or not We are running against an IMCUMBENT with a massive money machine behind him, who is already getting tons of free press.

Time to make some REAL fucking noise, kids. We can't wait until Spring.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:16 PM
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9. How?
I understand what you are saying, and I agree with the concern, but what else can be done at this point?

We have had many debates, their names are all over the papers and in the media...how else can we focus the public's attention?

People just aren't paying attention yet. Once the primaries get going, you will see more people who will be interested. I wonder if many are saying, "Jeez! The field is so full! I'll wait and see what shakes out from the early primaries and then make a call."

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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:19 PM
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10. someone better start yelling. soon.
"Rapid Response" is in order, and I'm not just saying that because Clark has started doing that.

I'll vote ABB.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:55 PM
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14. Better Not Narrow It Down Too Early
If we all get behind one candidate too early, Something Will Happen to him.
Best to have a lot of candidates all of whom could beat Bush.
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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:46 PM
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13. What did these numbers look like on Halloween in 1991?
It's impossible to speak to what these numbers mean without comparing them to other relevant contests. Do you know if it's unusual or not?
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