Who is your choice for the Democratic Presidential Nomination?

OK let's try this again. The first poll was lost in the GD data loss (an election rigging effort by somebody who didn't like the results, hmmmm....);)

Please vote--vote again if you voted the first time--and make known your preference to the progressive communitty.

I will work to keep this poll kicked, as I hope to draw 300 voters here.

oddly enough, I couldn't post to the original thread although I could vote.

Wesley Clark if he were to run. Today, Dean gets my vote.

I used to be a Dean supporter but now with his constant putting down of the Dems I've switched to Kerry.

I don't agree with the Dems who voted for the war but we can't harp on them so much that we remain a minority party!

I know you can all see that, but I'm just writing this to kick the poll.

Can someone explain that to me?

how many people post & read here on any given day?

....for Lieberman if it got rid of Bush.

Biden/Clark.

<<The first poll was lost in the GD data loss (an election rigging effort by somebody who didn't like the results, hmmmm....)>>

Must have been Diebold polling machines! ;)

I have serious problems with legislation Biden has proposed/voted on.

I don't like Kerry's asociation with the DLC.
Dr. Dean's either...he seems like the DLC "stealth" candidate, and a little more republican than lite, when it comes to the repub-lite candidates.

Gore/Clark has a good feel, but unless the media was onboard this time around, it would never work.

....realize Gore doesn't want to run. If he surprises me though, he will be assured of my vote.

Sounds good to me.

as long as he or she can beat Bush!

Can you fix it so that it's only possible to vote once?

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42%-18%

n/t

It's nice to see him gaining in our polls.

You'll note that in the national polls, it goes Gephardt, Lieberman, Kerry, Dean, Edwards.

Personally, I think it's only name recognition that gives those first two much of any presence at all, and I don't think they have a chance (or a prayer, in Quisling Joe's case).

Don't forget that your duty as a human being is not to "win" and have "your guy/gal" be the one chosen, but to pick the one who's best for the country from among the ones who have a chance. Acrimonious though it often gets here, there's been a lot of very constructive mutual education here of late, and that's always good.

It's still early yet in the process -- some of the candidates (like Edwards) have been holding back, planning on the late surge.

I really like Dean all around, but if he's not the nominee, I will still vote Democratic.

Kucinich would be my #2 choice, with Kerry #3.

Calls BushCo to task. On the House floor no less!

I had to vote other.

But, anyone but Bush.

I wonder if Rockefeller would make a good VP choice.

MzPip
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Heck yeah, Rockefeller might be the perfect VP candidate. WV and MO are probably the keys to the next election. Gephardt might be just as good.

He may be the only chance we have to attract the swing vote seeing that he was a general/war hero and many swing voters are still waving the flag.

No clear number 2 has emerged.

(this is just an empty kick)

If it isn't already obvious, I plan on voting for Senator Bob Graham of Florida! He has the most traction on national security issues, he is ultraliberal on environmental issues, he has the most progressive tax policy as of now, he has executive experience, he has an outstanding record with minorities including a huge support for affirmative action in a Southern state that is not exactly gung ho for affirmative action, and the list goes on. And he is speaking his mind these days, unafraid to challenge Dubya on any area of discussion. Actually, he challenged Dubya to a one-on-one debate in Florida at the end of June that Dubya refused! So hey! It's Graham time! Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines, the Graham # 50 Truck may be racing by your hometown! :)

http://hometown.aol.com/gbd4/

But none if them have come forward.

Could you be a little less condescending?

What is the purpose of your statement that "none if (sic) them have come out?"

I think Joe Lieberman will be a great president, and he has the vision, leadership and programs to transform the U.S.

The defection on the Left would be massive, over 5%, and then the Greens will have money for 2008.

lets hope Dems have enough sense not have Lieberman end up in the race for the WH

If you all claim to be liberals how can anyone vote for Lieberman and not Gephardt?


for ADA 2002 voting record

Missouri
1 Clay (D) + + + + + - + ? ? + - + + + + + + + + + 80%
2 Akin (R) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0%
3 Gephardt (D) + + + + + + + + + + + + - + + + + + + - 90%
4 Skelton (D) + + + + + - - - + + - - - + + + - - + + 60%
5 McCarthy, K. (D) + + + + + + + + + + + ? + + + + + + + + 95%
6 Graves (R) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 0%
7 Blunt (R) - - - - - - - - - - - - - ? ? ? ? - - - 0%
8 Emerson (R) - - - - ? - - - - - ? - - - - - - - - - 0%
9 Hulshof (R) - - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + 10%


Connecticut
Dodd (D) ? ? + - + + + + + + + + + + + + + - + + 80%
Lieberman (D) + + + + + + + + + - - + + + + + + - + + 85%

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Anyone but Bush! I will vote for whomever is on the democratic ticket.

Americanreborn

I sure wouldn't mind Gore taking his rightful place.

Combine the Kerry, Graham, Edwards and Lieberman vote and it's neck and neck with Dean.

Just a thought.

Let's just be nice to each other and remember whom the real enemy is.

ABB has to turn into solidity behind the democratic nominee.

(Off-topic---> someone tell Nader to jump in the California governor's race if he wants to make a real difference.

Is The One.

but he has to enter the race first.

Can you imagine how many votes he'd get if his name were on the ballot?

Gyped again.

PC alert - "Gyp" not cool -- ethnic slur

The General is getting a of of write in's and I'll be sure to tally them when I do a report of this poll tomorrow. The reason he is not on the ballot is because a) he is not an officially declared candidate, and b) there are only 10 slots, and I'd like to have one for write in's (Hillary, Gore, Biden, etc.) and undecideds.

amongst other reasons, it is my opinion that he is "electable." That is the most important consideration to me right now. I believe we are living in dangerous times and also I have a 16 year old son with a bright future if he doesn't get drafted. Regime change yeah, that is all I care about now. Although I will support General Clark at a grass roots level if he decides to run as a democrat. I would like to see a Kerry/Clark run and believe that they would be unbeatable. At least that is my opinion at this stage of the game.

selves...

;)

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(Repeating myself from another thread)

Sometimes one makes a choice between the ideal and the (more) electable. Personally I like Dean's message but he appears too caustic for the general public though his bluntness appeals to me greatly. I favor him over Edwards on Software patent law (based on observations) and maybe on the war.

That said, I think Edwards would be the most palatable to the majority and would be able to rip dubya a new, smiling warmly the whole time.

Edwards/Dean would be great because no other sitting Dem is lost to higher office and hopefully you retain the early energy and enthusiasm that Dean for America has brought to the process.

I hear the GOP talking heads saying it would not be good for the democrats to run dean..blah blah blah...Um why should the DNC listen to the people who want to BEAT US!?!

dam t and v just don't give us enought time to veiw the canadates to make a good choice for myself yet , i will choose one but which one is not in this little brain of mine yet

...assuming he runs.

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Results are coming in very similar to the Moveon poll.

Make yourself heard

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Aiming for 300 votes before I let it drop into the archives :)

That would mean that both Dean and Kucinich should really be doing everything they can to make themselves known to more people. I bet there are Dems on the ground in every state willing to vote for them and campaign for them. They'd better get out in the streets.

It's not. Don't kid yourself.

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...but I have to go with the plurality here, which supports Dean.

It'd be interesting to hold a DU primary in Approval or Condorcet, anyway...

But that does mean the real votes will break down that way. not all primary voters are internet users and this is a national sample, which is of little relevance in a New Hampshire or Iowa race. In fact people in those states like to snub the "national" candidate.

Is your candidate behind? VOTE!

Do you want Howard Dean to win in a walk? VOTE!

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But this poll means nothing. As such it's utterly freeing. I don't have to worry about who can win, who gets the south vote, or anything else. I really get to look at em all and pick the one I LIKE the most.

Carol Mosely Braun.

She can't win but I don't care. I like her. <looks defiant>

My vote is in for DK

I want to beat Bush and I have no dog in the Democratic primary fight. The last politician who really excited me was Robert Francis Kennedy. The man was as close to a saint as the our political system allows. He was charismatic, empathetic, and intellectually curious.

That being said I will rate the Democrats in descending order who have the best chance of removing the right wing junta from the White House

1) John Kerry

2) Bob Graham

3) John Edwards

4) Dick Gephardt

5) Joe Lieberman

6) Howard Dean

7) Carol Mosely Braun

8) Dennis Kucinich

9) Al Sharpton

None of these candidtes are perfect but they are an improvement over the Reactionary Republican who currently occupies The White House.

what happened to your DU poll, happens in the election in 04, computer glitches!

"(an election rigging effort by somebody who didn't like the results, hmmmm....)"

Bushco is out to steal again IMO, stealing is the only thing Bush ever did right in his life!

:bounce:

Shrub,,,why did you Snort Coke;
Whyyyyy do you blo smoke;
Whyyyy can't you read all them speeeeeches they wrote;
When shit hits the faaan you wanna' hiiiide your real position;
If you get stooooned and steal Aall day long;
It's A famillllllly tradition!

Shrub is very proud;
Of his famly's name;
When if comes to stealin';
They're all pretty much the same;
When he tells the country lies about it's true condition;
He sez leave me alone;
I'm skull and bones it's a Famillllly Tradition!

Shrub,,,why did you Snort Coke;
Whyyyyy do you blo smoke;
Why can't you read all them speeeeeches they wrote;
When shit hits the fan you wanna' hiiiide your real position;
If you get stooooned and steal Aall day long;
It's A famillllllly tradition!

Lordy Shrub has loved his money;
And and acts like Judge Roy Bean;
And Asscrust don't like tittys;
He thinks they're tooooo obscene;
When Shrub gets caught in some big fib;
About his real position;
He sez, Leave me alone, I'm sneaking home;
It's a family tradition;

And tell me Shrub,,,why did you Snort Coke;
Whyyyyy do you blo smoke;
Why can't you read all them speeeeeches they wrote;
When shit hits the fan you wanna' hiiiide your real position;
If you get stooooned and steal Aall day long;
It's A famillllllly tradition!

Sorry Hank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just got me new a guitar. Maybe I can find some new Anti-Bush tabs on the net :-).

Google 'Tabs About Scabs'!(anti-Union-Love-Ballads)

Wesley Clark provided he is opposed to the death penalty.
Even though Dean has created a great resume because he is antiwar. His pro death penalty philosophy probably will mean I will not vote for him.

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Yup

Not letting this drop into archive just yet!!!

VOTE!!!!

VOTE!!!!

VOTE!!!!

I voted for Kerry. If Clark gets in, I may switch to him depending on his domestic positions.

you mean, there's a presidential primary coming up? hadn't heard. who's running again?