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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:22 PM
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U.S. in Assassination Business?
So now that it's more or less official, do the deaths of Qusay and Ouday mean the US has assumed the right to assassinate foreigners without trial?

Though all evidence points to both being despicable creatures, since when is the US openly and without hesitation in the assassination business?

Does the "4-hour firefight" scenario seem unlikely to anyone else? My gut is telling me that they were murdered, didn't return fire, and we are getting a prepared military line. Or am I way off base (wouldn't be the first time...)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:22 PM
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1. That was their stated goal following 9/11. It isn't new
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DrPepper Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:45 PM
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2. Dean is OK with assasinations
Edited on Tue Jul-22-03 06:46 PM by DrPepper
Just FYI Howard Dean says assasinations are OK as part of the war on terrorism as long as it's not a head of state. I don't agree, at least if the person is in a country with a reasonable system of extradition (obviously not Afganistan under the Taliban).

I'm sure Kerry, Lieberman, and Edwards would support the policy too. So what am I going to do, vote for Nader?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:48 PM
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3. That is the Israeli position and that is wrong.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-03 06:48 PM by wuushew
I love Dean, but I will sure research his position more carefully

Can you name one democrat who opposes such a policy because they all should?
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:53 PM
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4. Yes. And has been for years.
What we now have to worry about is what Saddam will do to retaliate.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:10 PM
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7. Has not been for years.Was Illegal to assassinate HOS.Bush changed it.FYI
the USA had a policy of non assassination. because what goes around comes
around.

counting..........
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:53 PM
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5. We've been doing that since Kennedy at least!
We offed that Diem guy in south Viet-nam when it appeared that North and South were coming to an agreement. I guess we knew better, after all the Viet-nam war was such a success! :eyes:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 06:57 PM
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6. bush* encourages killing...it's a horrible bad turn for America
although it may be true that American Presidents have ordered people killed...there has NEVER been such blatant demand for blood and such thrill on national TV with killing...bush* glorifies the killing, enjoys killing, encourages killing as an American policy...and bush* minions are all over TV today, thrilled with the kill...

it should not surprise anyone as our children sink into the violence that bush* leads us to...whatever happened to American ideals:

"innocent until proven guilty"...even the Nazi war criminals got their day in court....
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:12 PM
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8. what id they expect? he had the history of the most people executed of any
state when he was governor of texas.

Gawd. I hope he's tried for treason
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-03 07:22 PM
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9. We are but not in this case
It would have been more adventageous to have gotten at least some information out of them before their deaths, so I have to imagine we didn't just knock them off for shits and giggles.

However, shortly after September 11th the misadministration decided to change the rules which had been in place since the 70s about assassinating people. We now said we would do it.
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