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Barney Gumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:11 AM
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Name the 5 who did most to defend freedom in the last century
Whack job Coulter has an opinion:

"...it is appropriate to honor the five men who did the most to defend our freedom in the last century. The names are easy to remember – they are the five men most loathed by liberals: Joseph McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Whittaker Chambers and Ronald Reagan."

http://www.anncoulter.org/columns/2003/070203.htm

Who are yours?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:16 AM
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1. My very eclectic list not in any paticular order
FDR
Eleanor Roosevelt
Martin Luther King jr.
Abbie Hoffman
Larry Flynt
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:20 AM
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2. hes kidding right J Edgar Hoover
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 01:23 AM by JohnKleeb
on edit Coulter is a he sorry
The man was a wiretapper. God I must be dreaming am I people please tell me I am.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:26 AM
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3. How about Winston Churchill and ALL the soldiers, sailors and airmen of
ALL the allied countries during world war 2....
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:36 AM
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5. FDR too and Harry S Truman
Also dont forget those in axis countries or occupied countries who fought the tryanny. I heard that 100 WWII vets die every day aint that a pity eventually when I am a old man they will all be gone an entire generation think about it folks.
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inthecorneroverhere Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:28 AM
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4. my 5 are...
1. Winston Churchill
2. Charles DeGaulle
3. Franklin D. Roosevelt
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. Lech Walesa
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:36 AM
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6. FDR, Eisenhower, MacArthur, Keenan, Kennedy
Coulter must live in a parallel universe....
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:39 AM
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8. what about Marshall? Bradley? Patton?
and the other great generals.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:38 AM
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7. the US's freedom?
1. all of the men and women in the US military during WWII
2. Franklin D Roosevelt
3. Harry S Truman
4. All American Labor Activists
5. Other activists of freedom including MLK and Ceasar Chavez.
May they all rest in peace. God bless em.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:39 AM
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9. Sorry to ask, but
whose freedom and freedom in what context?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 01:47 AM
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10. a whole bunch of people who did way more than those 5 idiots


This is Luxomburg Cemetery and Somme Cemetery respectively. May all the souls here rest in peace and watch us dawn on a peaceful age.
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suigeneris Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:20 AM
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11. Right, John
I too, have stood in those places and others, and wept at the killing done and the lives lost to make us free.

What in the hell is the matter with us that we cannot end war?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:27 AM
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13. theres so more I could find
Its so sad you know that World War I wasnt that war to end all wars that it was thought to be. In fact WWI looks like child's play compared to what we got now but the men generally believed that this would be the last war. When I hear a RW nut say that the dead of Normandy were mad at the French I frown but then I smile because I know that our fallen brothers and sisters want peace above all they dont want others to do what they had to do. They all deserve peac,we deserve peace, and the world deserves peace. The 5 men Ann Coulter mentions as the greatest freedom fighters didnt do jack and while men who you or I never knew died in wars they did their evil deeds men like Sgt Mike Strank, Lt Thomas Meehan, among thousands of others were dying while J Edgar Hoover did illegal things at the FBI and while McCarthy ranted about communism boys died in Korea, while Nixon talked about communism boys died in Nam, and while Reagan talked many boys died, and I dont know who the other guy was but my point is we dont know the true freedom fighters by name they are just stats but these stats are more honorable than any of the men Ann Coulter listed.
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:23 AM
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12. You bozo LIEberal tree huggers left out the important people :
1. David Duke
2. Adolph Hitler
3. Trent Lott
4. Rick Santorum
5. Kenneth Lay
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:33 AM
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14. She should stop buying cheap drugs
I guess with better ones she would include Josef Stalin and Adolph Hitler.

My five:

FDR
Truman
Kennedy
Carter (most of our newer weapons programs were started by him)
Churchill
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 02:49 AM
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15. She's not even honest with herself anymore, she's parodying her old self
No way she believes any of that, she's just trying to get attention, like the meanest kid in the classroom who threatens to kill everyone. She's done-- even her side won't listen much longer. She's just not very good when she's not plagerizing someone.

For the record, my five would be Helen Keller, Lucretia Murray, Martin Luther King, Jimmy Carter as president, and Jimmy Carter as world statesman. I'm assuming American. Otherwise, I'd include Ghandi and Mandella.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 05:16 AM
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16. five:
The real power behind defending humankind's freedom in the last century.

1. Sri Ramana Maharshi
2. Rama, Frederick Lenz Ph.D.
3. Adida, Franklin Jones
4. Mahamuni Babaji
5. Gangaji, Antoinette Varner

Only enlightened people truly defend freedom.
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LSatyl Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 05:28 AM
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17. My list:
1) Mahatma Ghandi. He freed the Indians & Pakistanis from British colonial rule.
2) Martin Luther King. Instrumental in the (still ongoing) freeing of African Americans.
3) Nelson Mandela. Symbolic for another racial fight, he won the freedom of black South-Africans.
4) Che Guevara. He won the freedom of the Cubans, and fought for the freedom of South-Americans, Africans and Asians.
5) Anwar Al Sadat. Another leader who freed his people from Britsh colonial rule, he's also the first Arab leader to try to make peace with Israel, thereby freeing the Mid-East of war.

4 out of 5 on my list have been murdered. The exception, Nelson Mandela spent most of his live in prison.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 06:38 AM
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18. My 5...
Churchill, FDR, Gandhi, MLK, and Mandela. Lech Walesa is deserving of at least honourable mention.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:35 AM
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19. hm.
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 08:47 AM by Aidoneus
sticking to western hemisphere (world would be difficult to narrow down to 5):--Eugene V. Debs, Emiliano Zapata, Augusto Sandino, Che Guevara, and, hm.. the inventors of the internet (no, not Al Gore :).. )
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:40 AM
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20. And we wonder why Hillary is outselling Ms. Annthrax
Even with the neo-cons buying Annie's book in bulk to boot.

Maybe she's hoping to join Michael Savage in neo-con obscurity. He's getting there real quickly and I'm sure Annie isn't far behind with comments like this!
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 08:44 AM
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21. Reagan just turned over in his grave, ooops
He's not dead yet. So let me get this straight, annthrax, a self-professed homophobe... loves Hoover too?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 09:55 AM
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22. Alinsky, FDR, Malcolm, Martin, Thurgood
just for openers
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:08 AM
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23. I'm thinkin'
In no particular order:
FDR
MLK
Churchill
Ghandi
US and Allied Soldiers
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:12 AM
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24. five names on Coulter's would-be enemies list
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 10:12 AM by ozymandius
(1) Edward R. Murrow
(2) Clarence Darrow
(3) Martin Luther King, Jr.
(4) Justice Harry Blackmun
(5) Chief Justice Earl Warren
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chromotone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 10:43 AM
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25. My five...
A difficult assignment, but here are my picks...

FDR—stewardship in battling Great Depression and despotic, tyrannical regimes;

Mahatma Gandhi—non-violent civil disobedience against despotic tyrannical regimes;

Martin Luther King—non-violent civil disobedience in seeking equal rights for all citizens;

Mikhail Gorbachev—(I know this may be controversial) recognized the folly of tyranny and dissolved the Soviet Union (some might say this was due to strictly economic reasons, but give the devil his due--the Soviet Union disbanded without a shot fired). Also initiated glasnost (political openess);

Jimmy Carter—emphasized human rights (the foundation of respect necessary for freedom) and continues to work towards same.
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 11:52 AM
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26. It's not any of Coulter's men!
General Lucius Clay was the Military Governor in Europe from 1947 to 1949. On June 24, 1948, the Soviets shut down all land and water routes between West Germany and West Berlin; General Clay responded by launching "Operation Vittles"--better known as the Berlin Airlift.

General of the Army Douglas McArthur inadvertently turned Japan into an economic powerhouse. While serving as the US commander in Japan during the occupation, McArthur realized that his troops' chasing Japanese women was bad for host nation relations. (It was also bad for his penicillin stockpile, but that is a story for another time.) He also knew that there was a nascent precision-mechanics industry in Japan. McArthur convinced them to ramp up production of watches and cameras, on the theory that every dollar a soldier spent on a watch or a camera was a dollar he wouldn't be able to spend on prostitutes.

Woodward and Bernstein were the men who did the most to bring down Richard Nixon. Woodward's turned into a whore as of late, but he once did a great public service.

Winston Churchill...let us remember a great orator: "I have myself full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years if necessary alone.

At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government, every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation. The British Empire and the French Republic, linked together in their cause and in their need, will defend to the death their native soil, aiding each other like good comrades to the utmost of their strength.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail.

We shall go on to the end;

We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans;

We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air;

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be;

We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds;

We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets;

We shall fight in the hills;

We shall never surrender,

And even if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the new world, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old."
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 12:04 PM
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27. would like to nominate my humble grandmother
Saraha Myrtle Weed applied to be an election judge when women first got the vote. The quiet, crippled, St. Joesph housewife and mother was determined that Women's Sufferage would be enforced. She decided the best way to assure no woman was turned away from her local polling place and told to "Go home and fix your husband's lunch", was to have woman election officials present.

Ms Weed died in 1960. She had suffered a serious illness and had been hospitalized. The before day the primary election, she checked herself out of the hospital. On election day, she had Mr. Weed drive her to her post at the polling place, as she had "important work to do."

She passed quietly at her post.

My granny. My hero.
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ward919 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 12:04 PM
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28. Barbara Lee, Cynthia McKinney, Bill Clinton, Gore's election attorneys,
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-03 12:08 PM
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29. Bob Moses, and the Freedom Riders....
Edited on Tue Jul-08-03 12:13 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Margaret Sanger
Paul Wellstone
RFK
MLK
Bella Abzug: after 2 congressional leaders voted against her resolution to end the vietnam war an angry Abzug barked, "FUCK YOU!" on the house floor...and she was the first member of congress to call for nixon's impeachment! ....God i miss her
Eleanor Roosevelt
Daniel & Phil Berrigan
Dororthy Day
the chicago seven






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