Sen. John Edwards

I've been pretty silent in regards to my dislike of all the Dem candidates (except Lieberman, of course), but I really don't care for him.

The accent, the downhome swagger and desperation to make us know he is one of "us", it just seems so fake to me. Maybe I'm just sick of the South.

The accent, the downhome swagger and desperation to make us know he is one of "us", it just seems so fake to me.

I remember people saying this about Bill Clinton.

they made fun of all of them.

If you don't like him, then DON'T vote for him!!! Duh........

It's been a long time since we have had a South-hate thread like this, I guess you just couldn't help yourself.

> Maybe I'm just sick of the South.

I'm sick of hearing how we have to pander our Democratic Presidential candidate
to meet Southern interests when the folks in the South haven't seemed to be
able, recently, to deliver a single victory to a single Democratic candidate for any
office from dog catcher to Governor to Senator.

(Don't bother telling me about Mary Landrieu; she's a Democrat like Zell Miller
is a Democrat.)

Atlant

The last two dems elected president been Southerners. You'd have to go all the way back to Kennedy.

Johnson, Carter, Clinton and Gore got the most votes of any Democrat in history.

And that point was that the last two (and frankly four if you throw in LBJ and Truman) have been from the South/Midwest not the North or Northeast.

It seems to me Dukakis and Mondale, from the North and NE were miserable failures in the GE.


On edit: I don't want to get into a regional war/flame fest. I believe both regions are highly important.

were elected from south of the Mason-Dixon Line...

Carter was from Georgia, of course
Reagan was from California. This counts if you take a straightedge and extend the MDL to the Pacific.
Bush claims to be from Texas. His house is in Maine, of course, but his official residence at the time was Houston. (Bush the Elder is a bit of a stretch...)
Clinton was from Arkansas
Bush is from Texas

If you want to keep going back, the last three Dems who have been president were from the South. LBJ was a Texan too.

was Pryor in Arkansas. What happened in NH?? Didn't repuke Sununu win? How could that be?

It's the BIRTHPLACE of the Republican Party. But Gore almost won it anyway in 2000.
You can't say the same about the South.

Pandering to the South will be a waste and it would dilute our message.

Atlant

NT

is in Wisconsin and that it's legal inception
was in Jackson, Michigan...

:shrug:

Arkansas has two Democratic senators....

And frankly I don't see how anyone could make the argument that the south doesn't matter and the south doesn't produce electable canidates when the last three from the North have been disastrous.

Or was I just imagining Bush Sr.'s huge blow out in 88 and Reagan's in 84?

Landrieu votes democratic most of the time, is more pro-choice than most people around here, and voted against the Bush tax cut because of the simple fact that it's a waste of money and won't do anything for the economy. Now don't get me wrong, Landrieu falls very short of being a great senator but you don't see her eagerly supporting Bush like Zell Miller.

:-)
Nah...we're all in the same boat in this country
as Carol says...we all want to see the Bush dynasty
go...forever from politics in this country.
May the person with the most votes take back our
country for us.

..but I think Edwards won the "debate" tonight.

Clark and Kerry picked up some votes tonight, too.

:eyes:

Total opposite of the arrogant, condescending performance of, say Dean.

This is so silly. So, Edwards has an accent! Big deal? Tired of the South? I am "out west" as they say, and some people here are tired of those from the Northeast not being able to pronounce "idea" - it's "i-deer" and a total lack of warmth (Kerry, Dean). See? You can say these kind of regional things about anyone, but you know what? We're all in this country, FIGHTING BUSH, together.

I'm from Texas myself and it's not the southern thing about Edwards that bothers me, but rather the way he presents hisself. He comes off extremely fake and irratating. This time it was "those are my friends, I grew up in the south." and last debate it was "I've got a plan... I've written it down..." to me this is just political BS. I prefer strait talkers and that's the reason Edwards bothers me. Don't get me wrong if he, by some mistake, gets nominated I'll support him. Anyone but Bush.

I don't like him either


But it's not because he's a southerner. I was born and graduated HS in the south too. (Then fled west!)

It's because he essentially said, fuck the disabled! 56 million disabled in our country. Months before an extremely important vote, Johnny boy was flooded w/emails, faxes, letters and phone calls, begging him to vote against a misogynistic, bigoted, anti-minorities and anti-disable judge.

What did he do?

He hid out in an office across the hall, waited until after the voting, THEN asked if his YES vote could still be counted. :mad:

To those of you that might not understand what that vote meant to the 56 milliion disabled people in our country, I will tell you. It meant more watering down of the ONLY legal recourse that we, the disabled have to protect our rights.

Now there is one more lifetime judge that would prefer the disabled be routinely warehoused and forgotten that we have to go up before to beg for our rights.

He said fuck you to me, I say fuck you, Johnny boy!

P.S. Mrs. Edwards, I hope you are reading this.