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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:24 PM
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does eating an animal that you killed mitigate the fact that u killed it?
Kerry is a jackass.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:28 PM
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1. Unless you don't eat meat
you are a hired killer. Just how is that different.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:29 PM
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2. Are you an vegeterian?
If you are then your criticism is warranted...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:29 PM
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3. Deanies against hunting? Is that his official stance you want to promote?
.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:31 PM
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6. no… I'm only seeking to promote Kerry's stupidity
n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:50 PM
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21. You've really fucked up, then...
since this seems more like an odd form of self-promotion
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:20 PM
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27. Well stop it, you are dead wrong on this.
Kerry shot a pheasant and then ate them. Big freaking deal.

Do you eat Chicken? What do you think, they play soft music to relax them and then inject them with drugs so they don't feel pain? Or maybe they grab their head and snap their necks? Who cares.

Unless you are a vegan/vegetarian, then you are just being petty and it does not look good. As a Dean Supporter, rise above the bashing.

Please.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:29 PM
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4. does eating a plant that you killed mitigate the fact that you killed it?
You have more than 30 trillion cells in your body. Does the fact that you provide a host to several times that number of bacterium and viruses make up for it all?

Only if you buy union.
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enkidu2 Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:06 PM
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24. eating
a plant is not equivalent to eating an animal, if it is a religious belief about the sanctity of life then yes plants are life too, but animals have the same capacity to feel pain as we do, only less of an ability to write bad poetry about it. Eat meat if you like but give up the half baked christian/natural law justification for it.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:31 PM
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5. Yes. You only kill as much as you can keep and eat
Never more. That, to me, is when it becomes unethical.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:33 PM
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7. but Kerry's not killing animals because he needs food
Mrs Heinz is more than capable of putting food (and all necessary condiments) on the table.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:38 PM
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10. I hear that Theresa has
57 variations
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:39 PM
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11. No matter WHO puts the meat on the table-
Somebody has to kill it, now don't they? What's wrong with doing it yourself, rather than just passing the dirty work onto someone else- It's pretty obvious which route is the most cowardly.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:35 PM
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8. Not good enough, you must utilize every part of the kill
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:39 PM
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14. And then after you've used it, you must recycle it
and then reuse it again.
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:35 PM
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9. Sure.
It's a great way to get ride of the evidence.
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:39 PM
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12. No he is not a jackass -there's a big difference in trophy
hunting and eating what you kill. Whether Americans realize it or not, many people today would not have meat on the table if they didn't hunt. Laugh at me if you like, but it isn't a funny topic. I know it well.
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Wellong Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:21 PM
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28. You are correct
I know several hunting friends who regularly violate hunting laws here in NC to provide food for friends of theirs who are very poor and depend upon his illegal hunting for some food.

I follow the law when hunting. Lucky for me though I can hunt in my back yard and it is full of deer!

Making venison chili, jerky, hams, and spiedies this week!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:39 PM
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13. Yes
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:40 PM
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15. What About Fishing And Eating The Fish ?
NT
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:40 PM
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16. i have always felt that killing what you eat is more moral
than buying it. take the karma directly and avoid the middle man.
it makes you honor the animal.
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RuB Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:40 PM
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17. It just means you enjoy the kill.
No brains for me though, cow stomach is good but not deer stomach lining. I'll pass on the cajones too.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:45 PM
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18. No more than eating an animal someone else killed. Are you a Vegetarian?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:48 PM
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19. no, but having killed the animal you are eating does
n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:48 PM
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20. Sorry, I can't agree. If you eat meat but don't kill it, you're no better
or worse than somebody who kills what they eat.

Do you think that domesticated animals LIKE to be slaughtered? I eat meat and I'm O.K. with that. I don't hunt, but I don't have a problem with people who do. After all, we're both eating dead animals. The only difference is who did the killing.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 08:55 PM
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22. I'm a vegetarian, but I can appreciate the Native American way
They would give thanks to the spirit of the animal which they killed, for giving their life to the hunter, that he or she may eat and clothe themselves.

My problem with killing animals is that they have a limbic brain, which is the seat of the emotions. I won't get scientific here, because that's not the point of this discussion. Personally, I will not eat meat, but I don't make it a moral issue with those who do. I figure, sooner or later, most people will decide that it is a business based on very cruel treatment of animals. Also, the meat they are eating is laden with antibiotics and hormones and god knows what other enzymes and biochemicals the stressed-out animals secrete into their flesh. If that won't stop you, then best of luck with your health. Sorry. I'll step off my soapbox now.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:03 PM
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23. If you pick a flower, does eating it absolve you of
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 09:04 PM by Cat Atomic
the sin of flower killing?

Some would say there's nothing inherently wrong with picking flowers in the first place.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:09 PM
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25. Transference of Energy
From one life form into another is still the way MOST humans exist.

There are a few humans who can exist on sunshine and water.... but not many... and they most certainly aren't running for president.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:11 PM
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26. I get my meat from all-natural meat-trees.
The steak tree is my favorite.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:24 PM
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29. I like to pick chickens
from the Fowlshrub.

MzPip
:dem:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:28 PM
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Please feel free to repost in a less inflammatory, omitting the profanity, manner.

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 09:30 PM
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31. I'm a vegetarian and not a Kerry fan, nor a fan of hunters
but I would say that hunting your own food from the wild is more ethical AND less cruel to the animal then buying meat that has been raised under modern factory farming conditions.
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