Mississippi Election Results- Thread #4

Continued from here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=650854

at least we got Philly

Peh. Meh. Feh.
Does it really have to get so much worse before it gets better?

Time to ratchet up a notch for 2004, folks.

80% PRECINCTS REPORTING
Candidate Votes Vote %
Haley Barbour (R) 377,708 53%
Ronnie Musgrove (D) inc 322,038 45%
John Cripps 5,275 1%
Shawn O'Hara (RP) 3,326 0%
Sherman Dillon 2,966 1%

nt

NO MORE!!!

It is time for major changes in this party or we will continue to get these same results year after year.

It is time for realistic assessments, not pie in the sky platitudes.

What do you suggest, O wise one?

It's over. We lost Mississippi.

Before people go out and slit their wrists consider this.

MS and KY both went for Bush in 2000, and will again certainly in 2004. So it makes no difference in that regard.

The GOP will be spinning no doubt. But we kicked ass in important swing and conservative states/cities today:

Ohio
New Jersey
Louisiana
Virginia
Salt Lake City
Philidelphia

and others.

So today was a good day. Unless, of course, you live in Mississippi or Kentucky.

So no worries.

Sorry, but minor ballot initiatives, non-partisan races and races in heavily Democratic areas mean exactly nothing.

The ship is taking on water and major changes are needed, not comments on how pretty the scenery is as we sink.

#1 McAuliffe must go!

Are you terribly surprised that the Republicans won in KY and MS?

Everything else was good.

I would be shocked if we carried those two states next year.

Accept it for what it is.

Is he the clown who came up with this 9 candidate debate circus? I'm all for the big tent but there are a few in there who wouldn't be if every person was for themselves. Why add legitamacy to the illegitamate?

We vote for our Governor on the 15th. I'll keep you posted. (we're hosed). The GOP money is pouring out bobby jindal's ass.

Not necessarily. I'm not ready to concede Louisiana just yet. Blanco and Jindal are in a statistical dead heat in the polls, even after Nagin's betrayal. Still 11 days to go before the election. It's anybody's race.

just reality..

If I wanted negative news I'd go to Fox or USA Today!

Let me watch him lose but stop with the glum impersonations. Jesus.

"NO MORE negative, pessimistic posts!!!"

Sometimes things just suck. There is no reason to sugarcoat bad news.

It looks to me like Mississippi is lost. I would rather see real assessments of the vote totals, not dreamy predictions of comeback finishes if the odds are virtually insurmountable.

Jiacinto is one of the best vote counters on DU. If he believes things don't look good, I want to hear it. If we see better news in Louisiana 10 days or so from now I am certain Jiacinto will be amongst the first to let us know.

Imajika

I don't understand why this race hasn't been called yet.

the tracking and exit polling indicates the race will close up as the final vote totals come in. If the networks are saying it is too close to call it tells me that all the tracking and exit poll data they have access too says the margin will be quite close - perhaps much closer than it appears now.

My best guess, we close the gap but probably not enough to win.

I'm going to sleep now and will hope for the best. I can't stand Haley Barbour so I will just have to hope for a miracle, but I won't be holding my breath as it really doesn't look good to me at this time.

Imajika

I am not yet willing to say it's over...

CAll me a fool, an idealist, but I am not yet ready to say it's over.

80% reporting, down by 8%

Here's what he has to say:

thank y'all, thank y'all, im sorry it was the middle of the night but it was worht staying up for.

Marsha (wife)...our 2 sons and i thank every one of ya. as we prepare for the next four years, please keep us in your prayers.

WTF are BLACK PEOPLE DOING ON THE STAGE WITH HIM???

Calls on god to bless his family. What a great day, etc.

***

He is calling himself the victor when no one else has said that yet.

A democrat that gets elected in Mississippi is really a moderate republican anywhere else in the country.

But reality is not a strong suit of the local purists, who insist that any candidate who is not an agnostic pacifist vegan marijuana activist from Berkeley is not an authentic Democrat.

Yep, Musgrove is quite conservative. But he's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. Those of us who remember Kirk Fordice don't need to be reminded of that.

Thanks for that...preciate you! :-)

That mindset really gets me sometimes. Like the people here who excoriate, say, John Breaux because they find him too conservative. Well, who in the hell do they think gets elected in Louisiana? And at least Breaux is on the people's side some of the time.

But no, some insist. If we can't have Noam Chomsky, then we might as well have Hitler.

We need another North/South dominated thread like we all need holes in our heads. Save it, for the love of all things holy.

if at least half of the precincts are reporting in...and one of the candidates has more than a 5% lead with a majority, it's over.

If anyone has experienced anything different when watching statewide returns, please correct me!

Margin around 55,000 votes.

Haley Barbour (R) 377,708 53%
Ronnie Musgrove (D) 322,038 45%

Apparently we're deluded. I'm having a crisis of faith.

of the other 18% we have to win by 8% that is a 13 to 5 margin.

Margin still holding steady at 8 %.

84% PRECINCTS REPORTING
Candidate Votes Vote %
Haley Barbour (R) 404,466 53%
Ronnie Musgrove (D) inc 341,966 45%
John Cripps 5,521 1%
Shawn O'Hara (RP) 3,441 0%
Sherman Dillon 3,205 1%

It appears that Haley Barbour is our new governor. Scoff if you like, but Bush takes this as an indicator that he will win in 2004.

I don't feel like going into all of this, but just let me say that I have some serious decisions to make now. I can't work with Haley Barbour...no way.

I can't figure out where Ronnie did anything wrong, but when you are facing a national political machine hellbent on winning, what can you do?

I will confess that I am not that distraught about Barbara Blackmon being defeated, as much as I despise Amy Tuck. Blackmon tried to proove herself more pro-life than Tuck, so she challenged Tuck (who was rumored to have had an abortion before her divorce) to sign an affidavit stating that she had never had an abortion. Tuck wouldn't do it, and Blackmon looked like a fool afterwards.

Musgrove was a good governor--I don't want to hear criticism of him right now. You have to govern from the middle of your state...you can't be a flaming liberal if most of the people in your state are conservatives. I am a liberal, but I appreciated Musgrove--worked my ass off for him as did many of my friends.

Anyway, now I have to decide if I can work for women, on behalf of women, to advance women, under Haley Barbour. Do I drive myself crazy banging my head against the wall or do I walk away?

Guess I will decide that in the next week or so.

At any rate, thank you all for hanging with us Mississippians through this, and please bear with us as we deal with frustration wrought by Barbour's admin in the future.

Thanks again.

jchild

If I were him, I wouldn't get too excited about this victory.

There are some southern states a Dem nominee could win, but MS is likely not one of them. We need to focus on states like Arkansas, Louisiana, and Tennessee in '04.

Another Bush whore as govenor. We feel you pain.

I can relate.

I lived in MS from 95 to 97 and know just how bad Republican governance can be down there. Fordice was gov the entire time and there was a Republican lite gov for some of the time. Musgrove was an impressive man. From what I have heard MS is a basket case right now and he got the blame. That is unfair but that is how life is at times. Both you and he deserved better. I wish you luck which ever decision you make. From personal experience I know what life if like there and got out. But, others stay. Good luck.

I gained a new respect for the state of Mississippi tonight. Clearly a lot of people turned out to fight the bad guys but it just wasn't our/your night.

I feel sorry for the people who will have to be governed by an overt racist fuckwit. I remember this Repuke B-teamer from way back in the 92 Prez campaign and he truly is an embarassment to democracy.

Hang in there!

if nothing else, this renews my motivation to get out of this state.

Will be finishing my doctorate soon---had hoped to stay here, but :wtf: for?

I am going to allow the sky to now be my limit as far as where I will consider to relocate.

Thanks for hanging out with me through all of this. I appreciate it.

Jill

We just elected a Dem. governor after eight years of a media whore Repug who used the OKC bombing to advance his political career.

Unforutnately, all but one of our members of congress are Repugs though. But the state legislature is still dem :)

This too shall pass!

Any jobs for historians around Talaqua (sp?)...I'm an ethnohistorian...American Indians are my forte (as if you couldn't tell by the sig line.) :-)

But Tahlequah has a wonderful and highly underated state school, Northeastern State U. And yeah, American Indians are the cornerstone of this state's culture/history. Wonderful people.

Thanks all.

Concedes.

"Time to piss on the fire and call in the dogs."

85% PRECINCTS REPORTING
Candidate Votes Vote %
Haley Barbour (R) 406,733 53%
Ronnie Musgrove (D) inc 343,476 45%
John Cripps 5,550 1%
Shawn O'Hara (RP) 3,470 0%
Sherman Dillon 3,215 1%

I've got to calm down for a few days now.

Musgrove fought the good fight.


:toast:

a sleeping pill...

Thanks for hanging in...'Nite all.

I'm graduating in May. If Ronnie doesn't pull it out, then Haley Barbour's name will be on my diploma :puke:

GO RONNIE GO!!!

:)

then Fordice must be on mine. I really hope you are wrong on that. I would almost rather have Hitler's name. Or are you in a high school? I am assuming you are an Ole Miss student.

Finishing up a PhD this year. Oh well, one of my other diplomas bears the signature of Guy Hunt, the stupidest governor in the history of Alabama, so I guess I should be used to it by now.

Ethnohistory. Have you done the dissert yet?

we got Ernie Fletcher today *sigh*

I'm just gonna go out, or maybe stay in, and weep in my beer.

but I can feel the anger surfacing. Problem is, I don't know how to deal with it.

I'm incensed.