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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:30 AM
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Kristof: WH Lied About Zogby/Iraq Polling....
Mr. Cheney has cited a Zogby International poll to back his claim that there is "very positive news" in Iraq. But the pollster, John Zogby, told me, "I was floored to see the spin that was put on it; some of the numbers were not my numbers at all."

Mr. Cheney claimed that Iraqis chose the U.S. as their model for democracy "hands down," and he and other officials say that a majority want American troops to stay at least another year. In fact, Mr. Zogby said, only 23 percent favor the U.S. democratic model, and 65 percent want the U.S. to leave in a year or less.

"I am not willing to say they lied," Mr. Zogby said. "But they used a very tight process of selective screening, and when they didn't get what they wanted they were willing to manufacture some results. . . . There was almost nothing in that poll to give them comfort."

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:33 AM
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1. Grow a spine, Zogby.
They USED you to LIE.
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:40 AM
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2. Not lying?
"Manufacturing results" that didn't exist in the polls, that's lying!
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:59 AM
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4. they told "untruths"… not lies
:eyes:
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:57 AM
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3. I fully expect to see this
all over the media today.

Or not. Hey, Zogby, I'll say it for ya: THEY LIED.
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:00 AM
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5. Zogby's got that "stiffed by a John" feeling
After being whored by the Reich Wing.

Wake up America.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:03 AM
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6. Well, well!
I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked and appalled!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:28 AM
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7. Don't worry John I'll say it for you,
How is this?

THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED! THEY LIED!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:28 AM
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8. i'm willing to say they lied

this is a pretty big deal.

they've been using this 'poll' as evidence that Iraqis are all 'happy peppy people'

arrgghhh.........

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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:51 AM
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9. Manufactured results when they didn't get what they wanted?
Geez, this sounds very familiar to me. They don't even attempt to lie with discretion anymore. Everything is just one great big lie and 1/2 the simple minds believe it! No wonder they aren't funding education like they should. They want to keep people stupid.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 01:42 PM
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10. I "manufacture" my age all the time.
But I refuse to manufacture income on my IRS forms because that would bring criminal penalties.
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