Can we really beat Bush?

My husband thinks that it will be almost impossible.
He says the polls are high enough right now to get him re-elected.
It is hard to go ahead and canvass and volunteer to a lost cause.
Should I throw in the towel?
:cry:

and remember that according to the latest poll, his re-elect numbers are only 38%. Bush is a very UN-popular president, regardless of what the media tells you.

let him do so more speeches telling the American people how swimmingly the economy is going, and how smooth the Iraq war is going. Give him a year of that - and let simmer.

Bill Clinton scored better ratings than Ronald Reagan!

and it appears that he's sinking faster.

An important thing to note is that the two-term presidents here (Reagan and Clinton) never appear to have topped 75%. Their ratings stayed within a rather narrow range (upper 30s to mid 70s).

The one-term presidents (Carter and Bush I) have more wildly fluctuating approval ratings (upper 20s to mid 70s for Carter, upper 20s to upper 80s for Bush I).

Reagan and Clinton's approval ratings can almost be plotted on a straight line; support for them remained relatively consistent. Carter and Bush I's ratings jumped up and down, suggesting that they didn't have solid bases of support.

Where do Bush II's ratings fall? Right now, they're between the lower 50s and lower 90s. They aren't consistent, and they're almost exactly where Bush I's were at this point.

The plunge is coming. Watch for it.

this was meant to go to general discussion

If he is the former, turn the tables on him. There's no point in support Bush. Iraq is falling apart, and there's nothing he can do to stop it. Worse, it was built on a tissue of lies that's falling apart, and he's going to have to take the blame for every lost Amreican soldier.

His economic plan almost presumes a jobless recovery for the benefit of the stockmarket, and the voters won't accept that.

His environmental program is to eradicate 30 years of progress, and most people just won't stand for that.

Tell him he might as well throw in the towel now and start looking really hard at Dean and Clark.

especially in politics. I certainly believe that he can still be beat. What we need is to get past the primary season, get a candidate selected and then get behind him and work.

We need to be careful not to overemphasize the economy and the war because a year is a long time in an econmoy and a war also. However, the usual democratic themes of equal opportunity and equal access to the American dream are not likely to show much progress during the current regime.

Carter and Bush I at the same points in their presidencies.

There seems to be a trend with respect to Carter, Bush I and Bush II.

As well as a different trend for Clinton and Reagan.

...it won't be easy. These guys are pros, they have unlimited funds, and they have no morals. We, on the other hand, have the truth and energy. Save your towel and give it to the GOP faithful the day after the next election! ;-)

Weren't George H. W. Bush (the Elder)'s numbers higher in November of 1991 than Shrub's are now?

Never, ever, ever give up. Cliche by now but true.

Jeebus let's not punt on second down!

I have a book at home called "The Experts Speak." It contains all of the hare-brained pronounements critics, politicians, and others have made over the years. Included among them is the claim, circa 1992, that we had GOP presidents "as far as the eye can see." Oops.

Another tidbit is Reagan's repeated pronouncement that there were no arms traded for hostages. We know how true that turned out to be.

I also recall hearing, after the first Gulf War, that 1992 would be a coronation for George Herbert Walker Bush.

Do you see a pattern here?

Weren't the Dem candidates referred to as the 7 Dwarfs around this time in 1991? Or, is my historical memory shaky?

maybe I am unrealistically optimistic but I think our chances are damn good for dems to win. I see so many DU'ers ready to throw in the towel and admit that we can't win WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A NOMINEE! Don't you all have faith that once it is narrowed to a "one on one" battle things are going to get good? Once we have our nominee that person will get all kinds of coverage to tell the american people exeactly what *'s record is.

I think this is the calm before the storm for this administration because they have given dems alot of ammo and they are going to look like the self serving crooks that they really are.

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regardless of the outcome---

You are going to sit at home, and post negative crapola on DU ?
Thanks for nothing.

Unfortunately, I voted for Bush (oh how I regret it!) and I gotta tell you, I'll vote for whatever Dem candidate runs PERIOD and I am convinced that I am not alone. Others that were deceived and are horrified by his pathological behavior will be following suit. Count on it.

Every time he opens his mouth, he digs himself a deeper hole by exposing:

1) he has obvious mental problems.
2) caught too many times with his claw in the cookie jar.
3) he is the result of some serious inbreeding
4) he doesn't care how many lives he destroys to stay in office.
5) he needs to be impeached before he does further damage to this country.

count me in

And I believe you are right, provided we can still get a legit election in this country - Chimpy is most certainly toast!

won't be an issue when bush is booted by a LANDSLIDE :)

every time he opens his mouth he loses more voters.

Bush vs. Baloney Sandwich.


ALL HAIL THE BALONEY SANDWICH!

and welcome to DU.:hi:

Welcome to DU!!! We need to encourage all those dissafected by Bush after voting for him.

BTW, I'm just curious. What was it about Bush, that made you vote for him the first time? It's important to understand what it is about him that makes him appealing to many people (many times it's tough for many of us to homestly underatand)...

Once again welcome!

It is my fervent wish and prayer that the truth about 9-11 and Iraq will be exposed for all to see, and then bush will resign rather than suffer the ignominy of being defeated in a torrential landslide of epic proportions.

And I sincerely hope he spends the remainder of his life in prison, in Iraq.

which would be easier than hitting a barn door with a boat paddle.

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As long as we put a person up that is willing to talk about bushes dirt, he should go down hard.

I talk to republicans almost every day(I live in nevad) They realize he needs to go. The potential is there for a cake walk. As long as whoever gets the nod gets the support from us I thhink we are a shoe in.

If Bush's corporate media manages to hand Dean the nomination, Bush will crush him, and we real Democrats will have suffer four more years of facist rule.

Kerry or Clark (if he improves his campaigning skills) are the only candidates who can win in this post 9-11 era, where having solid national security/foreign policy credentials are a requirement, not an option. Kerry stated that Clinton admitted to him that even he would not have won in '92 if the political climate was what it is today.