Freepers passing petition..who is Col. Allen West anyway?

I get these postings from a freeper blog (I have no idea how I even got on such a blog but I have been too busy to simply go there and unsubscribe and occcasionally it gives me a good laugh. especially thier quotes which are so hyypocritical that you gotta laugh after you are done cringing..;-)

I got this petitition from them asking me (who they beleive must be conservative or I wouldn't be getting thier crap) to exonerate some guy...

"Sign a citizen petition on behalf of Lt. Col. Allen B. West,
U.S. Army, who was indicted last week on criminal assault charges
for the psychological intimidation tactic he used to acquire
vital intelligence from a captured enemy combatant in Iraq --
intelligence that saved the lives of American soldiers facing
imminent attack.

" and his accomplices were a threat to our
soldiers and the method was not right, but why should I...be forced
into prison for protecting my men?," Col. West asks. Patriot
Petitions poses the same question: How can we expect our frontline
officers to fight wars the Bush administration calls "preemptive"
if they are not given the latitude to respond -- preemptively --
to the asymmetric threats of terrorist aggressors? Would the
deaths of American soldiers in the ambush Col. West thwarted at
Saba al Boor have constituted a more acceptable result for the
Army's judge advocate? Please sign the petition to exonerate
Col. West from this grossly misguided criminal prosecution.
Please join fellow Patriots on the front lines in defense of our
liberty and national sovereignty.
(If you don't have Web access, please send a blank e-mail to:
<sign-colwest@PatriotPetitions.US>
Each e-mail sent to this address will be counted as one signature
for the petition.)
"
http://PatriotPetitions.US/colwest

Now, maybe it's just the Evil Flaming liberal in me but they don't seem to say what exactly this guy did. Psychological intimidation tactic is a pretty vague term (it can go from threatening to give somebody more jail time to shooting thier best friend in the head.) Not to mention the rationale suddenly makes me think of the atrocities in Vietnam where an entire villiage was wiped out for what seems a rationale very similar to what this guy is giving here.

So who is this guy, what did he do exactly and has anyone else seen the freepers jump on this as thier new outrage of the week? And did he actually twart an ambush or is that just the typical half truth/outright lie we've come to expect from these guys?


Oh, and one of thier funny quotes that came with the petitition...

"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength
from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business
of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose
conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto
death." --Thomas Paine"

Apparently "psychological intimidation tactics" and breaking the law does not bother the freepers conscience at all.

I don't know how he did it, but the way the KGB and IRA used to do it was to blindfold you, and discharge a pistol next to you so you soil yourself.

Bob Kur and some FBI analyst type saying that the Col. can stand up to the charge, that he had every right to "intimidate" a witness who had information. The Col. said he was trying to "protect his soldiers" from attack. The Col. can either resign and forfeit over a miilion in pension or go to court martial. These morons stand fast that he wouldn't get court-martialed, that he did the right thing. Despite the fact that shooting off a loaded pistol to intimidate a witness breaks every rule.

Just imagine if the tables were turned here and it was the Col who had a gun fired off in his presence by an Iraqi soldier trying to get information...I'm sure positive that the freepers would be screaming for the head of that Iraqi and demanding justice.

I get to be the one trying to make him soil himself.

:)

who will spend time pbreaking big ones into little ones in Leavenworth if there's any justice in the world.

While there might be justice in the world, expecting the pentagon to hang one of thier own when they are probably agreeing with him (and in league with criminals in the white house) just doesn't set off my optimism...

I mean, did Kisenger ever have to go to trial? he was intrumental in toppling an entire government and indirectly havign thousands of peopel tortured and "disapeared" What justice has ever come to him?

The best we can hope here is a scathing documenatary in about 30 years.

"Everything is legal when you are the ones writing the laws"
Tye DiCalto

You ever hear the term "loose cannon on deck"? Well, Colonel West is (or at least was) an artillery battalion commander from the 4th Infantry Division, where there aren't anything but loose cannons.

Colonel West is the guy who conducted the pistol-point interrogation on October 29. He went to the interrogation of an Iraqi policeman who wasn't talking. West pulled his sidearm, fired it once into the weapons-clearing barrel outside the interrogation tent then went into the tent, stood next to the policeman and fired again. Naturally, the Iraqi broke at that point.

if you put a gun to my head...I will tell you whatever you want to know.

Whether I know it or not.

What proof is there that this ambush that the Col says he stopped was actually stopped or even was int he works to begin with?

Not to mention...
If I was a heartless basterd on the other side, I would be sending helpless dupes with false info so they could get captured and tortured just to be setting up the Americans.

probably more than once. But when they did it, it was just an example of his repressive regime. When we do it, we're fighting for freedom.

them to give him information.

and quietly. I can see this guy becoming a rallying hero, much like Ollie North, against all sense and reason, did.

He was saying that the US military should be able to use whatever tactics in an interregation if those tactics get results.

So much for the Geneva convention, huh?
I thought the good guys always play fair, even when the bad guys don't. That's what makes them the good guys.

And then we bitch when the UN leaves us off the human rights council. It's our two-faced antics that caused that.

There's no eveidence that he even touched the guy. If he shot him, that would be one thing. But it dosne't sound like he even got slaped.

Well, from extensive reading of tactics used in South Africa during apartheid, I'd be willing to bet that without touching you physically, you could be induced to lose control of your bladder and bowel and be shivering on the floor in tears begging for the mercy of Jesus.

Torture is torture. "Physical" doesn't have to enter into it.