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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:13 PM
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Where does Clark stand on Unions and the Right to Organize?
I like most everything Clark has said on the issues. He's supporting a pretty mainstream liberal platform it seems, and he's good on social issues - pro-choice, pro-LGBT rights, pro-civil rights. I started considering Clark again when he (almost) said LIHOP about Bush & 911. I think Clark's foreign policy would be better than any we have had since 1980 (unless those conspiracy theories are true).

But he's been a bit vague on the economy, and the issue of corporate power and corporate crime in general. Dean's been ratcheting the populist rhetoric up lately, and the SEIU, a union I respect highly, has nearly endorsed him. Dean also said that if GM is allowed to lay off Americans are move plants to Mexico, than UAW should be allowed to organize GM plants in Mexico as well. I support that position 100%

Is Clark a populist? Will Clark put the interests of working middle class Americans over the interests of the rich and their companies? Is Clark going to participate in the class war against us that so many other Democrats, and all Republicans, have?

Specifically, what is Clark's position regarding unions in general and the right to organize?
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StephNW4Clark Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:18 PM
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1. Well, I'll try to find the precise resources for you...
...I have general impressions and quotes floating in my brain now, but I'll have to get you attribution. I'll look into it, and get back to you w/ info when I find it.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:23 PM
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2. I wish I knew!
I've googled; I've scoured his site. Nothing.

So, I just e-mailed the campaign for specifics.

Bookmarking this thread and will c/p whatever I receive.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:04 PM
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6. The fact that you've Googled and scoured and found nothing...
is very telling.

That is probably your answer.



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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:06 PM
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8. Please see post #7.
thanks :)
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StephNW4Clark Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:24 PM
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3. I know this doesn't answer your question...
...but it's such a great interview and insight into Clark's mind and personality. It's such a window.

http://www.nhpr.org/view_summary/3/
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:27 PM
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4. I don't have a link
But I think that I've heard him say in the debates that he supports unions and the rights of workers to organize. Have you tried to find links to any of the earlier debates/forums?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 05:47 PM
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5. Clark Said The Key With Outsourcing Is:
1. Corporations be made to give Government warnings so that workers can be prepared ahead of time.
2. New Jobs needs to be a priority.

Interesting aside, Krugman did an article about "Lumps of Labor". Labor and Capital are not finite resources. They can be created almost without limit.... unlike say Land or Gold.

So Clark is very much looking INTO THE FUTURE and the realities of GLOBAL MARKETING which is now a fact of Life.

I gotta say he impressed the heck out of me while talking about Economics.

And the fact he looked out after the troops and their families' while Base Commander says alot about him.

He improved Racial Relations, Day Care, Health Care, Education and Women's Services. Alot of his colleagues can't say the same.

I would like to hear him address Unions myself.

Perhaps if several people post on his blog... he'll address the issue specifically.

It'd be great to know which Economic Theories and Writers he subscribes to.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:05 PM
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7. From the Arizona debate, Oct. 9
"WOODRUFF: We have two minutes left. We are going to have to take very quick answers. We're going to take very quick comments from General Clark and then Senator Edwards. Very quick.

CLARK: I think unions are key in the new economy, and I'll tell you why, because unions not only help workers capture the wages that they deserve, but they also support training and mobility and make sure that someone is there as a voice for ordinary Americans.

What we've got to do is prepare our work force in this economy to be able to move from job-to-job, from skill-to-skill.

The unions are going to have a bigger role in this economy in the future than they have ever had in the past. That's why I strongly support the union movement and I believe we need more support for unions and more union members and not less in this economy."

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/09/se.03.html
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:13 PM
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10. Thank You!
The more he says, the more I like him.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:57 PM
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12. ooh, nice, the exact opposite of what the DLC said
"CLARK: I think unions are key in the new economy, and I'll tell you why, because unions not only help workers capture the wages that they deserve, but they also support training and mobility and make sure that someone is there as a voice for ordinary Americans.

What we've got to do is prepare our work force in this economy to be able to move from job-to-job, from skill-to-skill.

The unions are going to have a bigger role in this economy in the future than they have ever had in the past. That's why I strongly support the union movement and I believe we need more support for unions and more union members and not less in this economy."

Of course, the DLC has said that in the "new economy" workers would choose unions less, and that they would become less important. Good one Clark. If Clark doesn't get some union support, I won't vote for him. He should keep going in this direction.
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:08 PM
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9. Clark hasnt done a focus group on it yet
try back in a few weeks and they will tell Clark what he believes in.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:28 PM
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11. They are having a focus group on that subject this week.
Last week they have a focus group to determine whether or not it was a good idea to make an insensitive remark about the Confederate flag. There results were negative.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:42 PM
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13. Dean Pot, meet Clark Kettle!
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 07:43 PM by WhoCountsTheVotes
Everybody loves focus groups. We all know it :)
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:53 PM
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14. Unions are the most important part of worker's rights.
No other body is going to protect the hourly worker from unsafe working conditions, over time concerns, lack of job security and benefit concerns. Strength in unity is effective. Glad this question has been asked of the candidates, it should be asked over and over again and in the forefront of domestic concerns.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 11:55 PM
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15. absolutely
We need more unionization, and we need a candidate who will do whatever it takes to support that.
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