Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

If CBS had a controversial mini-series called: "The Clintons".....

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:20 PM
Original message
If CBS had a controversial mini-series called: "The Clintons".....
which dared to portray Bill and Hillary in an unfavorable light would the "Liberal" media get that switched to Showtime? Because, lord knows, they only brought vast amounts of prosperity and relative peace to our country the eight years they were in the WH. As good a president as we have had in the last 100 years or so.

Not that I'm a huge Clinton fan or anything, but the Reagan administration was about as bad as it ever got, until...well, now.

A Clinton mini-series would be the most hate-filled, spiteful and awful depiction that anyone could imagine.

"Liberal" media, my a**.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Why would we watch the series?...
We had it live for months on end!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. What should we do about the Counter Clinton Library?
This is some project being worked on by a rich businessman and a former one term congressman. It will be an amuesment park for Clinton haters in Little Rock. It sickens me that this building will even exist and I would love to see it put out of existence.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #2
9. I saw that on C-SPAN not too long ago.
Made me want to hurl. They can't get over it, can they? I still want to know what Hillary ever did to them.

Don't worry, FAUX will produce something vile inside of two years and air it on a Sunday following The Simpsons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
20. I agree. We need to do something about those morons.
I wrote down the number that was given on C-Span regarding the counter Clinton Library. I called late one night to hear the recording and couldn't believe a live person answered the phone! i couldn't believe my ears. I wanted to ask why the fvck are you monitoring these phones so late? I will look for the number and start a new post to get everyone to call and harass the operators or something.

This really stinks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RedSox02 Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. My guess is..
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 06:27 PM by RedSox02
...us on the left probably wouldn't bitch as much as the right did. You just can't fall short of calling Reagan the greatest President ever or the right throws a fit. I don't think the left would boycott anything that occasionally portrayed the Clintons in bad light. Notice occasional, because this was not a total hatchet job on Reagan, it actually stressed some of the fine points of his character. However, as soon as the right caught wind that some stuff would not cast him in the best light, they got pissed.

Again it needed to be 100% behind the Gipper, or else it "was not fair to him". Again I don't really care if they come out with a documentary on CLinton that shows some of his weaknesses. Hey it's the truth.

ON edit: As far as the counter Clinton Library goes though, alot of the stuff in their will not be the truth. Funny how they get mad that anyone suggest the Gipper swore in front of Nancy, yet these people would have no problem pushing the idea that CLinton murdered people in an Arkansas drug ring.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 06:25 PM
Response to Original message
4. Wolf Blitzer asked this question to Rich Lowry
it's a very good question, and Lowry's answer was very bad.

He said well, suppose the movie had Clinton saying how much he hated the military, after Mogadishu?

My answer at home was that something like that could very easily be in such a movie, and it would air, and the most the dems would do is dismiss it, not try to get it off the air.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
5. Liberals would complain
But I doubt that anyone here would would even think of trying to get it taken off the air.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:04 PM
Response to Original message
6. then not showing the movie
would be considered censorship.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:10 PM
Response to Original message
7. joe conason discusses this general idea in his salon column....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
15. I'd rather see "The Hunting of a President" made.
Raegan had a hard time figuring reality from movies and we all know that he wasn't calling the shots.

But "Hunting" should be made, so everyone can see just how evil the whole 'get Clinton' agenda was. I suspect that most of the public doesn't really understand how the Right fabricated, lied, and worked in concert to destroy a good man to further their political agenda.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:12 PM
Response to Original message
8. They should do a spoof
We'd get it and the right would think it was true. Wonder if the media would notice it at all?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
10. It's sad to see you say: "Not that I'm a huge Clinton fan or anything...,"
If you have to "qualify" your post to deflect attacks here on a "Progressive Web Site" it says too much bad stuff about where our party is heading. :-(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. I'm a fan just not a "huge" fan.....
Clinton was an excellent president, however, he was a bit too much of a centrist for me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
11. zzzzzzzzz........
:boring:"Not that I'm a huge Clinton fan or anything"


Yeah......I wouldn't let the ratwingnuts that lurk here think you were a fan of Clinton.... Khrist,what a thing to say on a leftwing board. :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:32 PM
Response to Original message
12. Who needs one?
People already lie about him all over television, and report conservative lies as though they were facts. No one ever disputes them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
14. Which actresses/actors will have the starring roles?
I vote Julia Stiles (with dyed hair) for Monica, if she's willing to gain 50 pounds.

How about Russell Crowe for Clinton. Hilary will be tough to cast, because it's hard to find a woman with that much grace and class. Perhaps Meryl Streep, but the physical characteristics don't match.

I'd like to hear some ideas about who will play Ken Starr ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Don't make Julia Stiles gain 50 pounds!
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 07:58 PM by eileen_d
:spank: I'm a straight girl and I *still* don't wanna see that! Plus there are plenty of actresses with realistic proportions -- and what a starmaking role that would be, eh?

I like Russell Crowe for Clinton.

Wilford Brimley can play Starr.
John Goodman must reprise his role as Linda Tripp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. I really don't want to see 50 extra on Julia either
It's just that she makes such a good "bad girl." How about Kate Winslet for Monica? She's about the right weight, and a good actress, too.

Brimley for Starr? Hmmm. I'm thinking Gary Oldman. He played a hypocritical Republican manipulator on The Contender, Shelly Runyon, and began a smear campaign. Very nasty and believable!

John Goodman as Tripp ... LOL!

Now, what about Hillary?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Kate Winslet would kick ass as Monica!
Good one. I just chose Wilford Brimley for Starr because I hate both of them. Oldman would be interesting.

Goodman did a bad impersonation of Tripp on SNL several times.

I don't know about Hillary. Anyway, gotta get some dinner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. Kate WOULD be a good Monica...
...and Russell Crowe would be a great pick for Clinton! :)

Later.

RJS
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:05 PM
Response to Original message
17. The Gop hopes if they say Reagon was great he may turn out to be.
Who could think that a man got in twice it would make him great?Most people I know felt he was over the hill before the first term ended. When he said he was ill who didn't know it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:06 AM
Response to Original message
21. Conservatives would complain that it was biased: no horns or tail n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BadFaith Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 12:55 AM
Response to Original message
23. The Clinton Chronicles
A "film" that depicted President Clinton when he was Governor of Arkansas as a murderer and a cocaine addict, among other things, saw no media attention when it was published. Aside from editorials and op-ed pieces in Wall Street Journal promoting it and, if you count him as a member of the media, Rev. Jerry Falwell promoting it on his TV show, "The Old-Time Gospel Hour."

The movie was produced by Larry Nichols, who was fired in 1988 by then Governor Clinton for misusing state telephones, who is also its star. Larry Nichols and WSJ editorial writer John Fund met in a hotel room during the 1992 Presidential campaign (along with other misanthropic Clinton "informers") for the stated purpose "to bring down Bill Clinton."

Larry Nichols, some will remember, helped to publicize the Gennifer Flowers controversy. In the movie he also alleges that Hillary Clinton was guilty of insider trading and had an affair with Vince Foster. Of course these allegations were made, and promulgated through more vociferous critics of President Clinton in the media, with no connection to the fact that Hillary Clinton represented Nichols' ex-wife in a custody battle that he lost.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftyandproud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:04 AM
Response to Original message
24. WE could call for a boycott
lets be honest now...This is all politics...If a hero on the left were smeared, we'd be pissed, and do the same things the freepers did for their boy Ronnie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:38 AM
Response to Original message
25. I guess you missed the series. It ran for eight years, I mean seasons.
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TBURNS Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
26. Reagon
I believe that CBS has the right to air whatever it wants. Americans are responsible people and if they supported reagon or kept up with the ISSUES througthout their life, many can make the decision on their own.

I don't think we need influence on what we need to see and what we can't see. It is america, and all viewpoints are welcome.

T.B.
http://conservativeissues.com
Balancing out Politics
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 01:50 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. The problem is that the truth will be burried and the lie will become the
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 01:55 AM by Mountainman
truth.

It must have happened many times in the past and it will happen many times in the future. History is made by the historians. Conservatives have made Reagan into something he wasn't and since they have a lock on the message that is the story that will be told. But is is sad for America that we can't get the facts because they do exist in documents that are accessable and learn from them rather than make up facts to suit a political agenda.

Conservatism is all about lies. It is dogma driven and does not mirror reality in any way that is the reason for the lies. But conservatives have the microphone and continue silence any debate.

What would the world be like if the fairness doctrine were back again? What if Rush had to really debate the issues? What if there was a liberal Fox news? What if the cable news was really objective?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kyrasdad Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
28. CBS
wouldn't do a show about the Clintons... BUT FOX would... and I'm sure it would be fair and balanced... Starring Lindsey Graham as Bill, Laura Ingraham as Hillary and Ann Coulter as Chelsea...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:09 AM
Response to Original message
29. What about all the countless
Kennedy mini series?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:12 AM
Response to Original message
30. What about the Kennedy movies??
There has been an institution built on Kennedy movies and books. That entire family has been raked over the coals for entertainment. I never recall a controversy over any of them - even the pathetic movie about John Kenndy Jr. played without peep much less a whinefest like the reagan repubs.

No way can we fight this by becoming whiney complainers like the right wing though.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. That's my point
The GOP are so insecure. I don't ever remember boycotts or the like whenever you have a "fictious" Kennedy mini series on TV. Les Moonves never requires a no-bias standard then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC