I have a secret for everyone. (Well, not for everyone)

After the Democratic Presidential nominee is chosen, regardless of who that person is, Bush and his minions are going to go negative against that person. Not the nicey, nice, type negative like the Dems are doing against one another right now. Its going to be in the trenches type, down and dirty type negative. I think some maybe had better begin preparing for that eventuality. Otherwise some may be fooled into thinking that if we don't expose as many of the negatives as we can about all of the prospective Democratic candidates that would simply be the end of it. It won't be the end of it. Promise. If it is any consolation at all, our guy will get just as down and dirty against Bush too.

Don

That's to be expected. This is going to be very bloody on both sides.

Yes, go on your candidates blogs and make sure they know to get the dirty laundry out now...

Like General Clark has got the whole NATO thing out, General Sheldon, William Cohen,...I'm sure there are others and other things that need to be brought to the front to difuse them before KKKarl Rove gets wind of it.

Tony Schwartz! Tony is credited with the single most effective and talked about ad ever produced, the so-called "daisy ad" which highlighted the dangers of nuclear arms. It was used by the Lyndon Johnson presidential campaign in 1964 to clearly illustrate his position on the use of nuclear weapons.

We need this guy. He is the very BEST!

As if it WAS the general election--with the main difference being to emphasize things that resonate more with our "base", while still reaching out to "swing" and "independent" voters. Especially in terms of preparing for a negative onslaught.

Many of the folks who helped Repub candidates in the 2002 elections will now be right in there with "Chip" Rove & Co. assisting in "oppo" research for Dub. One guy who helped out Jebbie in Florida even goes so far as to brag about his kind of strategy with a license plate that says "GO-NEG". Since there won't be very much positive--other than in appealing to HIS base--that Dub's team can say about their wimp, they're going to attack our potential nominee in ways that will make what the late Lee Atwater did for Poppy, and to Dukakis, in 1988 look positively mild by comparison; be sure of that one. And they've got that $250 million-and-counting in the bank to do just that.

All I can say is, if you don't believe how low they'll go, just ask John McCain about the 2000 South Carolina primary experience. :mad:

B-)

have all read Fortunate Son. I just finished the chapter about how Shrub beat Ann Richards. Come to find out, she's the one who gave him that nickname.

I don't think Democratic candidates or their supporters ought to be slinging mud or attacking each other as a rehersal for the General Election.

At some point someone is going to be the nominee. And the otehr candidates and camps are going to have to support them. That's going to be real hard if Dem Candidate X says against Dem Candidate Y "He's not fit for office because he's a snake in the grass."

In otehr words, we shouldn't be helping the GOP gather materials for their campaign ads in the primaries.

I think doing so is just going to drive the party apart at the time it most needs to be united. Criticism and the occasional glob of mud are OK, but to say they need to start going all out with the shit-throwing now as a warm-up is just ridiculous.

Bears defecate in the woods
Pope Catholic



On Edit: However, Bush has to be careful. He is very vulnerable to negative campaigning himself.


Here's my add:

George Bush says he choked on a pretzel, but his story just doesn't add up. We cannot afford another four years under a man who cannot even swallow a pretzel. After four years of Bush, America needs sobor leadership.

better be prepared to pull out all the stops. That means bringing all of chimpy's skeletons out of the closet.

and the Dem nominee needs the money to fight back.

In 2000, Bush had a DUI, insider-trading, AWOL, a shoddy business background, and rumors of drug abuse.

Gore had - 'he claims he invented the internet' and the Buddhist temple.

If Jesus Christ himself was running, he would be painted as a commie who vandalized a holy temple and made outrageous claims about 'miracle cures'.

My point isn't that candidates shouldn't come clean if they have some serious negative they are hiding, like a DUI or other fairly serious offense, because they definitely should come clean now about those.

My point is that no matter how clean our candidate actually is, the media will mercilessly shred him/her and minimize the more serious offenses of Shrub&Friends.

just like they did to McCain and Gore. They will encourage OTHERS to do the dirty work, engage in behind the scenes push pulling and then say their hands are clean and they don't know who is responsible for the negativity (but it's true they will say under their breath) They are slime uncapable of anything but a slime campaign.

I hope the dem nominee can EFFECTLIVELY use all of the chimps words against him. This administration has given us alot of ammo. It will be up to the candidate to take the ball that has been given him and run with it. You know, there is a difference between telling the TRUTH and running a negative campaign. That is to say, you don't necessarily have to be accused of being negative for simply telling the truth.