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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:05 PM
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Bill Schneider talking about the south
Edited on Thu Nov-06-03 04:16 PM by jiacinto
Mentioning "values"--seems like a codeword for "race".

Says that economics has to be an issue instead of values.

Mentioning Dean. Mentioning his "Gay rights problem."

Zell Miller coming on again. Asking him why he hasn't switched parties.

Noises on the set are making it hard for me to understand him.

CNN Trying to interview him again. Zell claims he is "trying to help them". Claims that they have taken "the worst feature of the Mondale and McGovern campaign" and they have "combined it".

Claims that JFK won GA due to taxes and national security. He claims you "don't get different just to be different".

Asking him what a successful campaign: "Look back at winning campaigns. Look back at Clinton". Talking about crime and welfare.

Dem special interest groups are "high mainteance", but GOP ones aren't.

Dems have ignored "1/3rd of the country". Zell Miller claims he was "carried away by Clinton".

Bringing up 9/11 and asking for "grit". He "likes" the fact that Bush is saying that "we aren't leaving".

He has some legitimate points, but his behavior is disgusting.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:06 PM
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1. The MediaWhores will treat Dean Gently.....
cause they wanthim to win.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:10 PM
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3. interesting question from me
if you think the meida is playing up Dean because Dean is a weak alternative or opposition to Bush, what makes Clark better? Just his service record? Dean has shown himself to be less liberal than Clark in a lot of ways...so what's the game plan of the Republicans? Why would they prop-up Dean?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:08 PM
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2. his gay rights problem?
so, gay rights should not be rights because right-wing ignoramuses say so?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:14 PM
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4. I get the imppression, that to the poster
Gay activists are a "fringe" special interest. I have been called as much.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:15 PM
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6. No I don't think that
I was reporting what was said on CNN.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:14 PM
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5. Whoever wrote #3 and #2 is on my ignore list
nt
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:38 PM
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7. and you're just as substantive as you were before you put me on ignore
lacking any
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3CardMonte Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:46 PM
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20. Recovered
from the whipping on your gun thread yet?
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:39 PM
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8. #7 I can't read what you are saying
So you are wasting your time posting.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:19 PM
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12. FYI
Its Terwilliger.
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progressivejazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:48 PM
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18. The rest of us can read what the poster is saying.
So he or she is not wasting his/her time.

Do you really believe someone ceases to exist when you're not paying attention to him?

In fact, her/his posts and your responses to them are very informative.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:40 PM
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9. What does "carried away by Clinton" mean?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:47 PM
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:36 PM
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13. Wow, another post from a "newbie"
referring to the Clenis. You need to come up with a new line. That one's getting reaaallly old. :eyes:
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 06:29 PM
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17. Nice tombstone
oops - you haven't got one yet... Oh, well - make another freeper post, and you should get fitted for one soon.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 04:57 PM
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11. He was enamored enough with Clinton
to introduce him to his buddy Carville in 1990. He delivered a rousing speech at the 1992 convention, proclaiming "Bill Clinton feels your pain." Those two used to be really tight. I'd like to hear what Clinton really thinks of him now.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:37 PM
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14. I knew he helped Clinton immensely in 1992
I just wondered what set him off since then.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:50 PM
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15. What I like about the Gay Rights issue.

Even if it is a loser, at least it would be one topic where the argument was about expanding rights. All the other issues (that shouldn't be) are about taking away our rights, e.g. abortion, guns.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 07:20 PM
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19. Good point, ieoeja
The problem is that the quest for that particular group has a lot of downside. Now don't get me wrong.... everyone deserves to be left alone by an intrusive government. That's part of being free in America. It's just that beng gay seems so personal. As long as one doesn't flout their personal desires, desires that most people cringe at, everybody else just says 'ok, fine, in this country you are free to do what you want'.

It's pretty much the same with guns. As long as someone doesn't point their gun at you... no problem! Simplistic and unsatisfactory as an analogy, maybe, for this issue, but it does have a bit of truth to it, does it not?

Methinks supporting the mainstream idea of equal rights for everyone regardless of race, creed, color, age, and religious beliefs, and ensuring everyone has an equal chance to pursue happiness, will ensure that eventually even gays will be less discriminated against. What's best for everyone is good for the individual, right?
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haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 05:52 PM
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16. Jaci launches another veiled thread
designed to give exposure to his dark masters.
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